<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385</id><updated>2011-09-17T11:37:16.081-07:00</updated><category term='Kelly_Leverknight'/><category term='video'/><category term='Berlin_PA'/><category term='Larry_Williams'/><category term='Dave_Berkebile'/><category term='female_witness'/><category term='Ambassadors'/><category term='Paula_Long'/><title type='text'>Flight 93 Photo Fraud</title><subtitle type='html'>As mentioned in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, CNHI &amp; affiliates, Tribune-Democrat, WTAE-TV 4 Pittsburgh, KDKA TV Pittsburgh, The Wall Street Journal, CW11 TV New York, Daily American, History Channel, and the NY Times.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>82</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115812480883690353</id><published>2020-12-31T22:17:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-09-05T10:12:10.090-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Flight93photo.blogspot.com</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Permanent Top Thread.  Scroll down for new blogposts.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;HOLY CRAP!: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;Shanksville resident says &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; plume photo is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: 130%;"&gt;fake&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt; because the original &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html"&gt;didn't have a mushroom cloud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;"!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/end-of-serenity.2.jpg" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/end-of-serenity.1.jpg" style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This blog is dedicated in finding out if the smoke plume in Val McClatchey's infamous "&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2001/11/end-of-serenity-shanksvillememorialcom.html" target="_blank"&gt;End  of Serenity&lt;/a&gt;" photo is from an explosion originating from a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;different&lt;/span&gt; location than the alleged crash spot of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pa which would prove the official story is a fraud, or if her photo itself is a fraud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Start by reading my original article about the story behind her photo:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; Val McClatchey Photo: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(Updated:  03/29/08)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;Plume analysis only&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(Updated:  03/29/07)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;See also: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-evidence-flight-93-photo-fraud.html"&gt;Val's Plume vs. WTC 2 explosion plume&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(The above article will constantly be updated when new evidence emerges. Blogposts below will be of related evidence and/or updates to the above article.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115812480883690353?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115812480883690353'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115812480883690353'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/12/flight93photoblogspotcom.html' title='Flight93photo.blogspot.com'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-5328184855687852475</id><published>2011-09-09T11:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-10T13:10:56.961-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"McClatchey ready to put disputed photograph in the past" - Daily American</title><content type='html'>Comments about this article below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/da-ot-mcclatchey-ready-to-put-disputed-photograph-in-the-past-20110909,0,3182174.story"&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey ready to put disputed photograph in the past&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;September 9, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zqhzw5_Y2uE/Tmut9hVJDhI/AAAAAAAABp0/ktBXrGn3hqs/s1600/mcclatcheyandmusser.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="180" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zqhzw5_Y2uE/Tmut9hVJDhI/AAAAAAAABp0/ktBXrGn3hqs/s320/mcclatcheyandmusser.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Val McClatchey stands with Phyllis Musser, left, while holding  McClatchey's photo titled, "End of Serenity." Musser owns the red  barn captured in the photo.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Life changed in a single camera click on Sept. 11, 2001, for Somerset County resident Val McClatchey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey’s infamous photo captured a mushroom cloud&lt;/b&gt; from the crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 rising above a red barn and the rural Western Pennsylvania landscape. For nearly 10 years McClatchey’s photo, which she titled “&lt;b&gt;End of Serenity&lt;/b&gt;,” was the earliest known image captured following the crash, until a video surfaced earlier this week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The video, taken by the late Dave Berkebile, of Berlin&lt;/b&gt;, shows a cloud of smoke rising from the crash site. &lt;b&gt;McClatchey herself had known about the video, and even had a copy, since the 5th anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I had a message from my husband saying, ‘you’re not going to believe this,’” McClatchey said.&amp;nbsp; She said &lt;b&gt;Berkebile gave her the video when he heard the authenticity of her photo was being criticized&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“He said, here’s your proof,” McClatchey said. &lt;b&gt;The video was kept private until McClatchey&amp;nbsp; gave it to the National Park Service&lt;/b&gt; for an oral history leading into the 10th anniversary of Sept. 11. &lt;b&gt;She donated it on behalf of Berkebile who died in February&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For McClatchey, the video lends further credibility to her photo. &lt;b&gt;The photo, time stamped at 10:05 a.m. Sept. 11, 2001, and shot on her Hewlett-Packard 315 point-and-shoot&lt;/b&gt;, has been a subject of controversy since it was taken.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the years, &lt;b&gt;conspiracy theorists and bloggers have shown up on her doorstep harassing her, and bloggers have smeared her name on the Internet&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;b&gt;Google my name and I’m a fraud&lt;/b&gt;,” she said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey holds a copyright on the photo, prohibiting its use. S&lt;b&gt;he’s written complaints to Google asking that they remove her photo from Internet sites, but those complaints have come to no avail&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I provided documentation and proof that (Internet sites) violated the terms of use of the copyright,” she said. “But who am I to take on Google?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey was also involved in a lengthy lawsuit with the Associated Press over their use of the photo. The lawsuit resulted in a settlement&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The result of the lawsuit was anything but a success,” she said. “&lt;b&gt;When all was said and done, we were in the red&lt;/b&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey describes the photo as a mixed blessing. She admitted that there have been times when she wishes she hadn’t taken it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I was meant to do it for a reason, even if I don’t know that reason yet,” she said. “I’ve had some great experiences.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her photo hangs in the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, D.C., and will soon hang at the Flight 93 National Memorial. After the 10th anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001, this weekend, McClatchey said she’s looking forward to moving on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Everything’s going to be packed up and put away,” she said. “It’ll be pretty much over.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She does plan to make one more public appearance, however, in 2012. Her photo will be displayed at the National September 11 Memorial &amp;amp; Museum in New York City.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/da-ot-mcclatchey-ready-to-put-disputed-photograph-in-the-past-20110909,0,3182174.story"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;http://www.dailyamerican.com/da-ot-mcclatchey-ready-to-put-disputed-photograph-in-the-past-20110909,0,3182174.story&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;First, notice the vast difference in quality of the photo taken by the DailyAmerican reporter versus Val's photo taken with a 10 yr old HP 315 point-and-shoot digital camera.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;See &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/vindication-smoke-cloud-video-finally.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about the suspicions of the newly released Dave Berkebile video that supposedly vindicates Val's photo.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It says the timestamp on her photo is at 10:05 am.&amp;nbsp; Officials are saying Val took her photo &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;approx 5 seconds&lt;/a&gt; after the alleged Flight 93 impact.&amp;nbsp; I wouldn't make too much of this since times on a camera are input manually, so a camera's internal time could easily be off due to human error.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Now here's where it gets into some very misleading statements.&amp;nbsp; No one I've heard has "shown up on her doorstep" regarding her photo controversy.&amp;nbsp; The only people I know who meet her in person were &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/01/wing-tv-interviews-val-mcclatchey.html"&gt;Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani&lt;/a&gt;, who called and made arrangements with Val to meet with her at her business, in which they said Val was all to willing to meet and discuss her photo with them.&amp;nbsp; At the time of this arranged meeting, Victor and Lisa assumed the photo was real, but thought Val had accidentally taken a photo of an ordnance blast&amp;nbsp; instead and that's what they wanted to discuss with her.&amp;nbsp; They said Val's demeanor turned sour and hostile after this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;About "smearing her name on the internet," is questioning someone's photo smearing the photographer's name?&amp;nbsp; As to Val saying google her name and it says she's a fraud, go ahead and &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;q=%22val+mcclatchey%22&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=%22val+mcclatchey%22&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=g2g-v3&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=e&amp;amp;gs_upl=5678l7269l1l7641l2l2l0l0l0l0l271l467l0.1.1l2l0&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp;amp;fp=1fa7c254c97e187f&amp;amp;biw=1280&amp;amp;bih=637"&gt;do that&lt;/a&gt; and decide for yourself if it says that. In the first mainstream &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt;article by the PostGazette&lt;/a&gt; that reported about her photo controversy, the yellow journalist reporter made it look like I was calling her a fraud by saying the following in the article: "&lt;i&gt;On a simple Google search, Mrs. McClatchey's name now pops up in the same sentence as 'total fraud.'&lt;/i&gt;" Let me remind everyone what the title of my original photo controversy blogpost said: "&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Val McClatchey &lt;b&gt;Photo&lt;/b&gt;: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"&amp;nbsp; They all seem to forget the word "photo" was in my title.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The thing about Val claiming she was in the red after &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/lawsuit-over-911-photo-heads-to-trial_12.html"&gt;her AP lawsuit&lt;/a&gt;, just like her claim that all her profits from her photo sales were forwarded to the now-defunct &lt;i&gt;Todd Beamer Foundation&lt;/i&gt; via the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/val-and-honor-system.html"&gt;honor system&lt;/a&gt;, we only have Val's word to go by because there has never been a paper trail. Open your books, Val!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5328184855687852475?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5328184855687852475/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5328184855687852475&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5328184855687852475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5328184855687852475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/mcclatchey-ready-to-put-disputed.html' title='&quot;McClatchey ready to put disputed photograph in the past&quot; - Daily American'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zqhzw5_Y2uE/Tmut9hVJDhI/AAAAAAAABp0/ktBXrGn3hqs/s72-c/mcclatcheyandmusser.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-843715878164306959</id><published>2011-09-08T10:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T11:01:17.926-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Stonycreek Twp. Residents Forever Linked To 9/11" - KDKA Pittsburgh</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;(My transcripting in brackets.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-8074eb20d597b54b" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v22.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D8074eb20d597b54b%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D22AA5CE0223418C569CB998B41B08611B50BBFD1.362F307A15639F42DDA5D4D34813CFBD5BBFEF0E%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D8074eb20d597b54b%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3Dx8sHPV9jOu686V03_PBME_Vu1R8&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v22.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D8074eb20d597b54b%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D22AA5CE0223418C569CB998B41B08611B50BBFD1.362F307A15639F42DDA5D4D34813CFBD5BBFEF0E%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D8074eb20d597b54b%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3Dx8sHPV9jOu686V03_PBME_Vu1R8&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/stonycreek-twp-residents-forever-linked-to-911/"&gt;Stonycreek Twp. Residents Forever Linked To 9/11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;September 8, 2011 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Two-thirds of the plane had buried itself in the ground, or disintegrated on impact.&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;"I caught a really quick glimpse of -- sun reflecting off of metal and then the explosion.  And it was so forceful that it almost knocked me off my sofa.  And I jumped and grabbed my camera and went out to the front deck and saw the smoke rising over the hill," Val McClatchey says.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Val McClatchey’s photo of the mushroom cloud which she titled “End of Serenity” is going to be included in the Ground Zero Memorial in New York.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It’s going to be six-foot-by-nine-foot, and that’s amazing one picture,” McClatchey says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;b&gt;Val has spent a decade defending her photo against those who claim it's a fake&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;b&gt;There's a lot of bad people out there&lt;/b&gt;," McClatchey says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;But then one day vindication arrived at her door.&amp;nbsp; A man from Berlin, a hilltop away, arrived with a videotape he shot moments after Val snapped her one famous frame. He never went public with this tape, but wanted her to have it as proof.&amp;nbsp; She shared it was us for the first time.&lt;/b&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She and her husband are trying to sell their home on the banks of Indian Lake, but she’s certain people will continue to seek out the house just as they have for the past 10 years arriving unannounced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“They just pull in, walk up on the front porch, and snap a couple pictures of their own,” she says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/stonycreek-twp-residents-forever-linked-to-911/"&gt;http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/08/stonycreek-twp-residents-forever-linked-to-911/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Apparently you're "bad" if you question a photo.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Notice the "inaccuracy" saying Dave Berkenbile never went public with his video.&amp;nbsp; Other articles say he tried, but the media supposedly &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/vindication-smoke-cloud-video-finally.html"&gt;wasn't interested in it&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Val &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/02/val-mcclatchey-reportedly-has-amateur.html"&gt;first showed this video&lt;/a&gt; to a small group of people in 2007.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-843715878164306959?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/843715878164306959/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=843715878164306959&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/843715878164306959'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/843715878164306959'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/stonycreek-twp-residents-forever-linked.html' title='&quot;Stonycreek Twp. Residents Forever Linked To 9/11&quot; - KDKA Pittsburgh'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-9020062312809348123</id><published>2011-09-05T22:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-09T11:06:23.382-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dave_Berkebile'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Berlin_PA'/><title type='text'>'Vindication' smoke cloud video finally surfaces</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Back in 2007, Val McClatchey had reportedly &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/02/val-mcclatchey-reportedly-has-amateur.html"&gt;showed an amateur video&lt;/a&gt; taken from Berlin, PA to a group at the 2007 Shanksville memorial reunion that supposedly showed the aftermath of the alleged Flight 93 crash explosion and, thereby, "vindicating" her infamous "&lt;i&gt;End of Serenity&lt;/i&gt;" smoke cloud photo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten years after 9/11, this video has finally surfaced:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-4995ebd4bf392655" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v11.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D4995ebd4bf392655%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D7E16ADF8421682CF2794B866ACAA85B16BA4FD5F.7148186C021260802CECFC69F1E895628334DE26%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D4995ebd4bf392655%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3D1jSWPmIKTg-0ZSxYuPf2RKu3G2k&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v11.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D4995ebd4bf392655%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D7E16ADF8421682CF2794B866ACAA85B16BA4FD5F.7148186C021260802CECFC69F1E895628334DE26%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D4995ebd4bf392655%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3D1jSWPmIKTg-0ZSxYuPf2RKu3G2k&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surfaces"&gt;Flight 93 crash site video surfaces&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;September 3, 2011&lt;br /&gt;SHANKSVILLE — &lt;b&gt;As the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks approaches, a video shot just minutes after the crash of United Airlines Flight 93 has surfaced&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;While the video does not show the moment of impact, &lt;b&gt;it clearly shows a mushroom cloud rising from the site of the crash&lt;/b&gt; at an abandoned strip mine near Shanksville.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The voice of Berlin resident Dave Berkebile, now deceased&lt;/b&gt;, can be heard speaking calmly in the background.&lt;br /&gt;“This is the remains of an airplane crash over on Lambertsville Road,” he said. “Probably a terrorist bomb on board that blew up.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gqNhjrUaDT8/TmWvZdNGLNI/AAAAAAAABpc/xegKbY1urfQ/s1600/dave%2526cathyberkebile.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gqNhjrUaDT8/TmWvZdNGLNI/AAAAAAAABpc/xegKbY1urfQ/s200/dave%2526cathyberkebile.jpg" width="161" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dave Berkebile, now deceased, who shot video of the Flight 93 crash scene, is shown with his wife, Cathy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Berkebile said the crash “shook the heck out of the house ... A great, big, black cloud just mushroomed right up into the air.”&lt;br /&gt;Then he added: “I wonder if there is anything left of Lambertsville.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmBKBPirfSY/TmWwERUEQ0I/AAAAAAAABpg/J4Ob71WOi6s/s1600/valwatching.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="212" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmBKBPirfSY/TmWwERUEQ0I/AAAAAAAABpg/J4Ob71WOi6s/s320/valwatching.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Val McClatchy of Indian Lake, who took the first known photo of the   Flight 93 crash, watches a video shot moments after the crash.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Donna Glessner, who is collecting oral histories for the National Park Service, saw the video and said she believes it is the earliest known video of the crash.&lt;br /&gt;“I thought it was just a very important historic piece,” she said.&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;b&gt;No one else has a video of that smoke cloud&lt;/b&gt;.”At the time of the crash, Berkebile and his wife, Cathy, lived on Blue Bird Road.&lt;br /&gt;Although &lt;b&gt;he passed away in February&lt;/b&gt;, his wife, who has since moved out of the state, spoke about events that day.&lt;b&gt;She said a video camera was kept at easy access to shoot vistas from their home&lt;/b&gt;, which was situated on 40 acres.&lt;br /&gt;“My family lives in the city,” she said. “They had never seen the mountains. Up there on my mountain are the most beautiful sunrises and sunsets. Also snowstorms.&lt;br /&gt;“So I kept the video camera all charged up so I could go out and shoot anything gorgeous to show my family.”&lt;br /&gt;Berkebile said their initial thought when they heard the explosion was that it was dynamite.&lt;br /&gt;Although the distance between their home and the crash site is 8 miles by road, it is just 2 1/2 miles by air and Berkebile said they had an unobstructed view of the skies above the crash site.&lt;br /&gt;“Everything was totally visible and he had the presence of mind to grab (the video camera) and go running out the door with it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surfaces"&gt;http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surfaces&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Note that a comment left by Dave's sister in the article's comment section says the actually street location that the footage was taken at in Berlin, PA was &lt;a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=39%C2%B058%2725.44%22N+78%C2%B051%2738.68%22W&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;ll=39.973519,-78.860722&amp;amp;spn=0.001094,0.002411&amp;amp;sll=39.973396,-78.860968&amp;amp;sspn=0.004374,0.009645&amp;amp;vpsrc=6&amp;amp;t=h&amp;amp;z=19"&gt;Bluebird Lane&lt;/a&gt;, not Blue Bird Road:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surfaces"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Diane Deist&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; wrote:      &lt;br /&gt;Hello,  I am  Dave Berkebile's sister.  &lt;b&gt;Our two homes are the only ones on Bluebird  Lane&lt;/b&gt;.  I saw it was listed as Blue Bird Road in my morning paper. Yes,  that was an exciting morning, When my home shook from the impact, I  immediately called Dave and asked him if his house shook,  He said yes,  'What was that?' I said it must have been an earthquake!  Then he saw  the smoke to the NW and said'Look out your big window!'  I turned on my  scanner and heard a large plane went down in Lambertsville, when he  heard this he said'I'm going to see.'  I left right after for the  Shanksville School where I had two grandchildren enrolled.   &lt;b&gt;When Dave  returned, he said all he saw was a big hole in the ground&lt;/b&gt;.  Thank you .       &lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;September 4, 2011, 7:43 PM&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article also says that the distance between the Berkebile's house and the crater is 2 1/2 miles by air, but according to Google Earth, the distance is about &lt;a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=39%C2%B058%2725.44%22N+78%C2%B051%2738.68%22W&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;ll=39.973519,-78.860722&amp;amp;spn=0.001094,0.002411&amp;amp;sll=39.973396,-78.860968&amp;amp;sspn=0.004374,0.009645&amp;amp;vpsrc=6&amp;amp;t=h&amp;amp;z=19"&gt;5.8 miles&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4mj0MAkViNA/TmXLzzU3scI/AAAAAAAABpo/WtyWSpFFGYM/s1600/berkebile5.8milescrater.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="231" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4mj0MAkViNA/TmXLzzU3scI/AAAAAAAABpo/WtyWSpFFGYM/s400/berkebile5.8milescrater.png" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's analyze the Dave Berkebile video.&amp;nbsp; It shows the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- a large trailing grey-colored smoke cloud &lt;br /&gt;- looks to be originating where the crash supposedly happened&lt;br /&gt;- smoke trail looks to be drifting east toward &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/01/93-ambassador-says-vals-photo-taken.html"&gt;Bedford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;On the surface, the video &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; look consistent with Val's photo and the official story,&lt;b&gt; so this should be enough to vindicate Val McClatchey's mushroom cloud photo, right?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well not so fast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I think everyone's first and immediate question about this video is &lt;b&gt;why did it take 10 years for this video to surface&lt;/b&gt;?&amp;nbsp; Well get this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“No one else has a video of that smoke cloud,” said Glessner. “As far as I know it has not been shown or broadcast anywhere.” &lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;The video will be available at the crash scene’s Flight 93 National  Memorial, which is being dedicated Saturday as part of the 10th  anniversary remembrance of 9/11.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Berkebile’s wife, Cathy, said &lt;b&gt;her husband initially offered to show the  video to news outlets&lt;/b&gt; covering the Flight 93 story, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://tribune-democrat.com/cnhi_special_projects/x803544759/Flight-93-video-emerges-10-years-later"&gt;but no one was  interested in looking at it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;What?&lt;/i&gt; The media back then weren't interested in looking at a video of major historically significance???&amp;nbsp; Now that one is just a little too hard to swallow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reminds me of another::&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Val McClatchey &lt;b&gt;snapped the &lt;i&gt;single&lt;/i&gt; picture&lt;/b&gt; with her new digital camera.&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;"I didn't even aim. I was just like, 'Oh, my God,' " she said. &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt;&lt;b&gt;She dropped the camera&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;b&gt;jolting the battery loose&lt;/b&gt;, then tried in vain to call her husband, son and daughter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Next, you would think that this video was released by Mr. Berkebile’s wife, or other family member.&amp;nbsp; Nope.&amp;nbsp; Guess who of all people?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Five years ago, &lt;/b&gt;[&lt;b&gt;Mr. Berkebile&lt;/b&gt;]&lt;b&gt; gave the 1  minute, 38-second video to Val McClatchey&lt;/b&gt;, the woman who shot the only  still photograph of Flight 93’s haunting, skyward aftermath.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey recently donated the video&lt;/b&gt; to the National Park Service for an oral history of 9/11.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason Mr. Berkebile allegedly gave it to Val was . . . because of me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;McClatchey recently donated the video to the National Park Service for  an oral history of 9/11. She had endured years of harassment from  conspiracy theorists who believe Flight 93 was shot down by U.S.  military jets and that her photo was a fake.&lt;br /&gt;~ &lt;br /&gt;So, she added, he kept it to himself until &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/photo-under-fire-tribune-democrat.html"&gt;he read in the Johnstown,  Pa., Tribune-Democrat&lt;/a&gt; about the conspiracy controversy surrounding  McClatchey’s photo. &lt;b&gt;That’s when he decided to give her the video to  validate her mushroom cloud picture, dubbed “End of Serenity.”&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;b&gt;We never considered it might be important (until then)&lt;/b&gt;,” said Mrs. Berkebile.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They never considered it might be important until then???&amp;nbsp; Did they not know they had the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; alleged video of the smoke cloud? Apparently they did when earlier in the article Mrs. Berkebile said her husband initially tried to bring it to the attention of the media. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(Correcting the article, "we" don't think Flight 93 was shoot down.&amp;nbsp; We think it didn't crash and the scene was staged.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;There are some points about this video that are suspicious:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;- Mr. Berkebile supposedly filmed this about 6 miles away.&amp;nbsp; The large smoke trail should have been able to be seen from at least &lt;i&gt;double&lt;/i&gt; that distance, yet Val McClatchey and Dave Berkebile were supposedly the &lt;i&gt;only ones &lt;/i&gt;who filmed the smoke cloud within a 12-mile radius.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;- The Berkebile's supposedly went to the "crash" scene immediately after Mr. Berkebile shot the video.&amp;nbsp; He forgot the take his camcorder with him???&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;- We can't question Mr. Berkebile about his video because he "&lt;a href="http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/04/home-video-shows-flight-93-crash-site/"&gt;died suddenly&lt;/a&gt;" earlier this year &lt;a href="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11248/1172314-454.stm"&gt;in February&lt;/a&gt; and it doesn't help that he was a lifetime member of a &lt;a href="http://articles.dailyamerican.com/2011-02-28/lifestyle/29154895_1_berlin-memorial-service-heart-surgery"&gt;Mason lodge&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;We also must question how could a large smoke cloud even form at all and I'm not talking about because I think no plane crashed there, but even according to the official Flight 93 crash story?!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2009/09/officials-claim-flight-93s-cockpit.html"&gt;way Flight 93 supposedly crashed&lt;/a&gt; was when it was on its side, or upside down (&lt;i&gt;which ever official version you choose to believe&lt;/i&gt;), its wingtip hit first causing the 757 to begin to cartwheel.&amp;nbsp; The plane's front end slammed down on the ground next causing the cockpit section to "break off" and shatter into the woods and field.&amp;nbsp; The rest of the plane on back (&lt;i&gt;one quote claiming &lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/04/claim-80-of-flight-93-buried.html"&gt;80%&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;) then buried deep into the ground.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ground was reportedly still "&lt;a href="http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/09/1031115990570.html"&gt;loose and uncompacted&lt;/a&gt;" and immediately fell back in on itself, affectively self-sealing the hole and plane:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;- "&lt;b&gt;The plane had pierced the earth like a spoon in a cup of coffee: the spoon forced the coffee back, and then the coffee immediately closed around the spoon&lt;/b&gt; as though nothing had troubled the surface. Anything that remained of Flight 93 was buried deep in the ground." - &lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/articles.html#0702-Lets-Roll"&gt;Lisa Beamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The cockpit and first class shattered like the point of a pencil, and remnants sprayed into a line of hemlock pine trees. The fuselage accordioned on itself more than thirty feet into the porous, backfilled ground. &lt;b&gt;It was as if a marble had been dropped into water&lt;/b&gt;. - Author &lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/articles.html#0703-Among-the-Heroes"&gt;Jere Longman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06246/718359-84.stm"&gt;Veteran FBI agent Michael Soohy&lt;/a&gt; had been to airplane crash scenes before, and he thought he knew what to expect: chaos, bodies, a hulking wreck of a jet.&lt;br /&gt;"I don't think anyone expected to see what they didn't see," said the 50-year-old who grew up near Johnstown. "&lt;b&gt;It's almost like a dart hitting a pile of flour. ... The plane went in, and the stuff back-filled right over it&lt;/b&gt;."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the 757 supposedly &lt;a href="http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Sep2006/Feature2.asp"&gt;went in the ground so fast it didn’t have a chance to burn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And never mind that the grassy field that hardly shows any signs of fire damage: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V-M_a2BB_II/TmgiPRKmX3I/AAAAAAAABpw/8V0wlNz-zEw/s1600/shankscrater.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="262" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V-M_a2BB_II/TmgiPRKmX3I/AAAAAAAABpw/8V0wlNz-zEw/s400/shankscrater.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;(See more "crash" scene photos &lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/gallery.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as that small section of forest that got fire damaged, the part of the plane that would have caused this was the snapped off cockpit section and I don't know &lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2010/02/shanksville-forest-damage-conflicts.html"&gt;what's in a 757's front end that would even cause an explosion&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are also witnesses who seem to contradict that there was a large smoke cloud:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/retired-trooper-saw-flight-93-fall.html"&gt;Larry Williams&lt;/a&gt;,  a retired Pa. State Trooper, was playing golf about 9 miles away from  the crater when he saw a commercial airliner fly by and bank on its side  until it dipped below the skyline.&amp;nbsp; In his interview, &lt;b&gt;he never mentions hearing an explosion, seeing a fireball or even a smoke trail&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2004/09/9-11-mysteries-remain-afp.html"&gt;Paula Long&lt;/a&gt;: “&lt;b&gt;I never saw that smoke&lt;/b&gt;,”  Paula Long, an eyewitness, told AFP. Long ran “immediately” after  hearing the crash but did not see the cloud of smoke caught in the  now-famous photograph by Valencia McClatchey, she said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/03/witness-there-should-have-been-more.html"&gt;Unidentified female witness&lt;/a&gt;:  "...and it was fairly low.&amp;nbsp; It wasn't treetop low, but it was lower  than it should have been.&amp;nbsp; And like I said it was cocked like it had  been turning to the left.&amp;nbsp; And, just in a nose dive position once it  cleared the tree tops I couldn't see it no more.&amp;nbsp; And then when I got  out to [Hwy] 30 is when I seen the big puff of smoke, and-- &lt;b&gt;I even had thought to myself that there should have been more smoke than that whenever it crashed&lt;/b&gt; cause the jet was extremely big."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And don't forgot the explosive phone call to witness &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html"&gt;Kelly Leverknight&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Jeff: Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: &lt;b&gt;It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff: It what?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: There was no mushroom cloud.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff: So it was a fake photo?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff: Her photo's faked?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff: For what? For money?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff: Why, do you know that for sure?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: Yeah!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And lastly, the color of the smoke plumes in both the Val McClatchey photo and Dave Berkebile video are reminiscent of &lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/ordnance-blasts.html"&gt;grey-colored ordnance blasts&lt;/a&gt;, not black-colored jet fuel fires.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I don't know about you, but I'm declaring shenanigans on this video.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;More links to this video story:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11248/1172314-454.stm"&gt;Video shows Flight 93 aftermath&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%20http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/04/home-video-shows-flight-93-crash-site/"&gt;Home Video Shows Flight 93 Crash Site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ten-years-later-new-video-of-flight-93-aftermath-surfaces/"&gt;Ten Years Later: New Video Of Flight 93 Aftermath Surfaces&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.emirates247.com/news/world/ten-years-after-9-11-flight-93-gets-due-attention-2011-09-08-1.417397"&gt;Ten years after 9/11, Flight 93 gets due attention&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-9020062312809348123?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/9020062312809348123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=9020062312809348123&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9020062312809348123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9020062312809348123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/vindication-smoke-cloud-video-finally.html' title='&apos;Vindication&apos; smoke cloud video finally surfaces'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gqNhjrUaDT8/TmWvZdNGLNI/AAAAAAAABpc/xegKbY1urfQ/s72-c/dave%2526cathyberkebile.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-4039586330336116946</id><published>2011-09-05T01:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T14:25:30.971-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Larry_Williams'/><title type='text'>Retired trooper saw 'Flight 93' fall, never mentions explosion or smoke trail</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-49f1c264d53a9acb" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v15.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D49f1c264d53a9acb%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D754B9300EE5409E140F35DE31DFF3F7016BB35AC.2F289EFF7E3761C288507476D1A06F20141B657D%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D49f1c264d53a9acb%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DrWZlIKgbco1Ob-PMOtrGhh0eaVQ&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v15.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D49f1c264d53a9acb%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D754B9300EE5409E140F35DE31DFF3F7016BB35AC.2F289EFF7E3761C288507476D1A06F20141B657D%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D49f1c264d53a9acb%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DrWZlIKgbco1Ob-PMOtrGhh0eaVQ&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This is an eyewitness account by retired Pa. State Trooper, &lt;a href="http://pottsmerc.com/articles/2011/09/05/news/doc4e64b5d75aa5b096494863.txt"&gt;Larry Williams&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; He was playing golf the morning of 9/11 at the &lt;a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=oakbrook+golf+course+loc:+jenners,+pa&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ll=40.139499,-79.035859&amp;amp;spn=0.008727,0.01929&amp;amp;sll=40.140516,-79.035816&amp;amp;sspn=0.008727,0.01929&amp;amp;geocode=CcHv3oN_DcgJFbftYwId_zxL-ymX0uvg3uHKiTGL9ESvnbHfTA&amp;amp;vpsrc=0&amp;amp;t=h&amp;amp;z=16"&gt;Oakbrook Golf Course&lt;/a&gt; in Jenners, PA, about 9.25 miles NW of the crater according to GoogleEarth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He talks about how he heard and saw a commercial plane, being able to see the windows on the side, then seeing the plane nose-up, then bank on to its side before he lost it over the skyline.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After, he and his golf buddies speculated if it was in trouble and wondered if it had landed at the small airport in Indian Lake.&amp;nbsp; Finishing his round, he saw police emergency vehicles going East on Rt 30, then saw a state police helicopter fly by.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When he was back at the parking lot, his friends came out of the Club House and told him that plane had crashed in Shanksville. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;At no time in the interview did Mr. Williams mention hearing an explosion, seeing a fireball, or any resulting smoke trail&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fgHniciul5I/TmfcBPPDmnI/AAAAAAAABps/6FKVugnNjQ4/s1600/larrywilliamscrater.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="230" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fgHniciul5I/TmfcBPPDmnI/AAAAAAAABps/6FKVugnNjQ4/s320/larrywilliamscrater.png" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-4039586330336116946?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/4039586330336116946/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=4039586330336116946&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4039586330336116946'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4039586330336116946'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/09/retired-trooper-saw-flight-93-fall.html' title='Retired trooper saw &apos;Flight 93&apos; fall, never mentions explosion or smoke trail'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fgHniciul5I/TmfcBPPDmnI/AAAAAAAABps/6FKVugnNjQ4/s72-c/larrywilliamscrater.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-9111044708999886648</id><published>2011-08-31T22:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-01T11:46:52.273-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"The road from 9/11: Shanksville, Pa.: The serenity we lost" - StarTribune</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;(Snippet.&amp;nbsp; Emphasis mine.&amp;nbsp; Commentary below.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/128842558.html?page=all&amp;amp;prepage=1&amp;amp;c=y#continue"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The road from 9/11: Shanksville, Pa.: The serenity we lost&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Article by: CURT BROWN , Star Tribune | Updated: August 31, 2011 - 10:56 PM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A twist of fate ends the serenity in rolling Pennsylvania hills.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1PKYkRCKWhU/Tl-8o5-QmCI/AAAAAAAABpY/XpJRKUaLf8I/s1600/val_startribune083111.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1PKYkRCKWhU/Tl-8o5-QmCI/AAAAAAAABpY/XpJRKUaLf8I/s320/val_startribune083111.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Val McClatchey, a real estate agent who &lt;b&gt;lives about 1.6 miles from&lt;/b&gt; the  Shanksville crash site, held a photo she took from her front porch 10  years ago.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;STOYSTOWN, PA. -- "Right here is where she went over," says Maluchnick, 55, a retired cop in Stoystown, population 385. "It was going so fast, all I caught was the tail. It was flying way too low and I told Ralph: If he doesn't elevate and get his nose up. ... &lt;b&gt;Then we heard the boom and seen the smoke about three seconds later&lt;/b&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'End of serenity'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey is president of the Keystone Camaro Club, so she usually has her Hewlett-Packard 315 point-and-shoot camera handy for car shows. It was sitting on her coffee table at 10:05 a.m. that morning 10 years ago, as she watched the "Today Show" at her house on Indian Lake, a filled-in strip mine.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Then I heard a surge of an engine and, man, was it loud," she says.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The explosion a couple miles west nearly knocked her off the couch. She instinctively stepped out on the porch and took one shot of a massive plume of gray smoke filling the sky next to her neighbor's red barn. Then she dropped the camera and the battery fell out.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Her photo instantly popped up in newspapers, websites and magazines around the world. She hired a lawyer to copyright her image, which she titled "End of Serenity."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Another blink of an eye and it would have hit the Shanksville school and all those kids would be gone," she says. "After a while, it gets overwhelming just to think about it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten years later, as grandchildren play in the driveway and an American flag flutters on her porch, &lt;b&gt;McClatchey says she's had enough. She's trying to sell her acre on Indian Lake after 25 years. &lt;/b&gt;It's not going well. With the economy sputtering, McClatchey says the market "stinks."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Her famous photo, which sells for $20 at a nearby general store, "has been a blessing and a cure," she says.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conspiracy theorists hound her on the Internet and even come to her door, claiming she faked the shot. She's burned through five lawyers, trying to protect her copyright. The FBI confiscated her camera immediately and she had to leap through all kinds of hoops to get it back. She keeps the memory card in a safe deposit box.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/128842558.html?page=all&amp;amp;prepage=1&amp;amp;c=y#continue"&gt;http://www.startribune.com/local/128842558.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This article confirms that Val's digital camera was an HP 315 that &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/10/val-mcclatcheys-camera-identified.html"&gt;we had identified&lt;/a&gt; back in Oct '06.&amp;nbsp; We also showed that &lt;b&gt;this camera has four AA batteries, not one battery&lt;/b&gt; which this article and the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt;Post-Gazette article&lt;/a&gt; before it implies it did when describing how Val supposedly dropped her camera after the single shot and the "battery" dislodged. Notice the article also says she usually had this camera handy for her car shows, which seems to suggest this camera wasn't that new, though it could mean she just had her new &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/cnhi-affiliates-flight-93-crash-photo.html"&gt;month-old&lt;/a&gt; camera handy for upcoming car shows.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Note that the article says she burned through "five lawyers" trying to protect her copyright.&amp;nbsp; Sounds &lt;i&gt;expensive&lt;/i&gt; for someone who was supposedly donating all the proceeds from her photo to charity.&amp;nbsp; It's also the first time we've heard that Val supposedly had trouble getting her confiscated camera's memory card back from the FBI.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-9111044708999886648?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/9111044708999886648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=9111044708999886648&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9111044708999886648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9111044708999886648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/08/road-from-911-shanksville-pa-serenity.html' title='&quot;The road from 9/11: Shanksville, Pa.: The serenity we lost&quot; - StarTribune'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1PKYkRCKWhU/Tl-8o5-QmCI/AAAAAAAABpY/XpJRKUaLf8I/s72-c/val_startribune083111.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-6940490458202970313</id><published>2011-03-27T17:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-01T17:46:15.037-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chardon Middle School students capturing Flight 93/Sept. 11 stories for oral history project - The News-Herald</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/03/27/news/nh3811717.txt?viewmode=fullstory"&gt;Chardon Middle School students capturing Flight 93/Sept. 11 stories for oral history project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Published: Sunday, March 27, 2011&lt;br /&gt;By Rachel Jackson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Few circumstances develop the way we would expect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Val McClatchey of Indian Lake, Pa., a simple interest in a certain make of automobile has led to a number of twists in her life's path she could never have anticipated a decade ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a real estate agent and member of the North Eastern Ohio Camaro Club in August 2001, &lt;b&gt;she replaced a series of disposable cameras with a digital camera for snapping images at car shows. Less than a month later, that camera happened to be sitting by her front door when a plane crashed in a field not far from her home. Acting on instinct more than conscious thought, she grabbed the camera, ran onto the porch and snapped a photo.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;That photo was the first picture to be taken of the crash of Flight 93, a photo that permanently altered her life.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AUEM2OXPhA8/TZZtTmbCnDI/AAAAAAAABpQ/EQKuhh8UogA/s1600/newsherald-val.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="236" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AUEM2OXPhA8/TZZtTmbCnDI/AAAAAAAABpQ/EQKuhh8UogA/s320/newsherald-val.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Jeff Forman/JForman@News-Herald.com&lt;br /&gt;Val McClatchey shows a copy of the photo she took of the smoke from the  crash of Flight 93 from her front porch in Indian Lake, Pa. McClatchey  came to Chardon Middle School Friday to share her 9/11 experiences with  the students. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A decade later, the NEOCC connection came full circle for McClatchey. A fellow club member had seen a public notice asking for memories of the Sept. 11 tragedies from those with local connections. That club member told McClatchey, who then contacted Tim Bowens, a Chardon Middle School teacher with a long history of working to keep the Flight 93 memories alive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey visited the school Friday to share her experiences and the now-famous photo with sixth-graders working on an oral history project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She thought she had become numb to the experiences of that day through a decade of retelling them, but found that sharing them with a pair of Chardon sixth-graders helped bring the experiences back to her in a fresh way.&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;The interviews were captured on video and will be combined with live portrayals and readings by students in a special presentation at Geauga Theater in May, said Kristan Rothman of Young Audiences.&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;In June, Bowens' students will make the annual sixth-grade pilgrimage to Pennsylvania, to the Flight 93 memorial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I'll be there to greet them in Shanksville," McClatchey said.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/03/27/news/nh3811717.txt?viewmode=fullstory"&gt;http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/03/27/news/nh3811717.txt?viewmode=fullstory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The reporter should have said why Val's camera "&lt;i&gt;happened&lt;/i&gt;" to be sitting by her front door; she was supposedly anticipating a &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2003/06/little-romance-muscles-its-way-into.html"&gt;helicopter fly-over&lt;/a&gt; the morning of 9/11.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-6940490458202970313?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/6940490458202970313/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=6940490458202970313&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6940490458202970313'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6940490458202970313'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/03/chardon-middle-school-students.html' title='Chardon Middle School students capturing Flight 93/Sept. 11 stories for oral history project - The News-Herald'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AUEM2OXPhA8/TZZtTmbCnDI/AAAAAAAABpQ/EQKuhh8UogA/s72-c/newsherald-val.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-149472198735849396</id><published>2011-03-02T22:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T18:27:58.519-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='female_witness'/><title type='text'>Witness: There should have been more smoke</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fuF2Me5fQeM?rel=0" title="YouTube video player" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;WITNESS: ...and it was fairly low.&amp;nbsp; It wasn't treetop low, but it was lower than it should have been.&amp;nbsp; And like I said it was cocked like it had been turning to the left.&amp;nbsp; And, just in a nose dive position once it cleared the tree tops I couldn't see it no more.&amp;nbsp; And then when I got out to [Hwy] 30 is when I seen the big puff of smoke, and-- &lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;I even had thought to myself that there should have been more smoke than that whenever it crashed cause the jet was extremely big&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; But, you know-- even when I was telling the dentist about it he thought I was talkin' commercial-- er-- you know a small aircraft that would be a personal airplane.&amp;nbsp; And I said no it was-- it was a big one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ANDY BRIGGS (KDKA): Did you HEAR something?&amp;nbsp; You say you just saw the smoke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WITNESS: No, I didn't.&amp;nbsp; And I even-- I stopped in the road.&amp;nbsp; And, you know, cause I had to take a second to realize what I had seen.&amp;nbsp; And I had tried calling my mom on my cell phone, and I couldn't get a hold of her..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;More evidence that the 'End of Serenity' photo,  with &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;the &lt;i&gt;massive&lt;/i&gt; smoke plume&lt;/a&gt; seen in it, is a fraud.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Hat tip to &lt;a href="http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=1669"&gt;Ligon&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-149472198735849396?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/149472198735849396/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=149472198735849396&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/149472198735849396'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/149472198735849396'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/03/witness-there-should-have-been-more.html' title='Witness: There should have been more smoke'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/fuF2Me5fQeM/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-6244296989560036501</id><published>2010-08-20T10:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-05T10:27:25.327-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Anti-conspiracist removes fake photo accusation on Wikipedia's Flight 93 article</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Talk:United Airlines Flight 93&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Verifiability&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Val McClatchey had been watching footage of the attacks when she heard the plane. She saw it briefly, then heard the impact. The crash knocked out the electricity and phones. McClatchey grabbed her camera and took the only known picture of the smoke cloud from the explosion.[64][65] &lt;b&gt;Conspiracy theorists have accused her of manufacturing the photograph.&lt;/b&gt;[66]"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mention of Val McClatchey's photo is unnecessary and the claim that it is fake is difficult to verify. Searching her name seems only to turn up conspiracy theorists' websites. I think that the last quoted sentence should be removed. It is distracting from the rest of the article content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.93.56 (talk) 05:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;I removed it, this page is no place for wacko conspiracy claims.&lt;/b&gt; The FBI, and various other agencies have examined the photo and verified it's authenticity. &lt;b&gt;Supertheman&lt;/b&gt; (talk) 05:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Revision as of 05:46, 20 August 2010&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:United_Airlines_Flight_93&amp;amp;diff=379911267&amp;amp;oldid=376973289"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-6244296989560036501?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/6244296989560036501/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=6244296989560036501&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6244296989560036501'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6244296989560036501'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2010/08/anti-conspiracist-removes-fake-photo.html' title='Anti-conspiracist removes fake photo accusation on Wikipedia&apos;s Flight 93 article'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-846380790467997389</id><published>2009-07-20T15:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-02-02T16:20:48.774-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The 'End of Serenity' of a certain picture</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-style: italic;"&gt;The following analysis is from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;rSpieker&lt;/span&gt; found at &lt;a href="http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=649&amp;amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=2291108"&gt;CIT forum&lt;/a&gt;.  I've corrected some spelling and formated his hyperlinks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;-------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The "End of Serenity" of a certain picture&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;by &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;rSpieker&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Most of you will know the famous ©opyrighted picture of Val McClatchey showing a mushroom cloud over the "crash-site" allegedly seconds after the crash of UA 93.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For an overview see the following pictures of an analysis provided from rumpl4skn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iu9IjXvzI/AAAAAAAABgk/Y_iKq9Fe68g/s1600-h/rumpl4skn-analysis2.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 278px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iu9IjXvzI/AAAAAAAABgk/Y_iKq9Fe68g/s320/rumpl4skn-analysis2.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433785315713597234" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2ivLhVRv1I/AAAAAAAABgs/UgUGNzXtwHQ/s1600-h/rumpl4skn-analysis1.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 223px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2ivLhVRv1I/AAAAAAAABgs/UgUGNzXtwHQ/s320/rumpl4skn-analysis1.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433785562883538770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that in the pictures above the cloud fits perfect between the red an white barn. We will use them later as reference points for the diameter of the cloud. And please note that the shape of the cloud is quite sharp and clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;Val McClatchey&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"It turns out to be the very first photo taken related. It’s --  timed it out -- it was  approximately 5 seconds after impact that I snapped the photo."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a lot of serious doubts e.g. from killtown, rumpl4skn, and terrorcell that this photo is true e.g. at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/"&gt;Flight93photo.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;plume-analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I found some more aspects to endorse the impossibility of this picture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are especially:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- the terrain between Val McClatchey and the "crash"-site&lt;br /&gt;- the diameter of the cloud,&lt;br /&gt;- how "old" the cloud must be,&lt;br /&gt;- the influence of wind and turbulences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we draw a profile of elevation between the "crash"-site and Val's POV then we get this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iw5WhmphI/AAAAAAAABg0/uoZFEJ3F9Tw/s1600-h/vals-pov.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 77px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iw5WhmphI/AAAAAAAABg0/uoZFEJ3F9Tw/s320/vals-pov.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433787449768060434" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Note that the hilltop at 1.2 miles determines her horizon. ( I ignore the trees at this point)&lt;br /&gt;With a little geometry we´ll find that the top(!) of the cloud has to climb at least 380ft agl to come in sight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If we put the things together then we get the next picture:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2ixmtFtnRI/AAAAAAAABg8/REKcf8XG78g/s1600-h/horizon-pov.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 209px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2ixmtFtnRI/AAAAAAAABg8/REKcf8XG78g/s320/horizon-pov.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433788228919205138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that our POV is about 40ft higher than that of Vals camera.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Distance to the cloud is about 1.4 miles.&lt;br /&gt;View is to the west, the blue line indicates the direction of wind from NW to SE, windspeed at that day was 9-12 mph means &lt;a href="http://www.sizes.com/natural/beaufort.htm"&gt;Beaufort 3&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we follow the horizontal angle over the red and white barn to the "crash"-site then we can calculate the diameter of the cloud to be at least 1,900 ft (indicated by the thick red horizontal line, a little bit hidden by "c")&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've put the center of the plume to an altitude 700 agl which is obviously too low. To get the complete cloud in our view it has to climb 380ft for the skyline plus 1,900 ft for the diameter = 2,280ft agl ! ("crater" is agl zero!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The center of the clouds "chimney" is in a distance of about 970ft from the "crater" (indicated by paddle "C")&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the horizontal movement of the chimney at 9-12mph we need between 55 and 73 seconds to come in position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the vertical climb I tried to clock the expansion rates of the wtc2 fireball, result about 35ft/sec in the very first seconds means we need 65 seconds for Val's cloud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A research for the climb rates of stratospheric balloons gave me values between 10 and max 50ft/sec.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if we want to believe at this point that this mushroom cloud existed, then we have to accept that it is at least 1 minute old (the "crash" being t=0 in this example).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be fair subtract the 8 seconds the explosion-sound needed to travel to Val. 52(!) seconds is another dimension than her claim that it had been only 5 seconds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the cloud is long time disconnected from the "crater"!&lt;br /&gt;But a strong source of energy and smoke is absolutely necessary to conserve a constant climb rate and the clear shape of the cloud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See yourself in the videos and pictures from the WTC and the Pentagon how the smoke-plume develops ans fades!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A 21-sec video showing the shockwave and typical black smoke cloud from a detonation of 350lb of pure TNT you can see &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb3y6m-buco"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note: When the energy is gone the clear shape of the cloud fades away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is due to the natural turbulence of the air even at very low windspeeds.&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Did you ever see snowflakes dancing in the air?&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most people aren't aware of it but there are more than 1,000 micro-gusts per hour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iy-SnjDsI/AAAAAAAABhE/BNBUDh9zxcQ/s1600-h/spectrum-wind-speed.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 134px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iy-SnjDsI/AAAAAAAABhE/BNBUDh9zxcQ/s320/spectrum-wind-speed.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433789733641850562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Source: Lecture "&lt;a href="http://www.eawag.ch/research_e/apec/Website%20zur%20Vorlesung/Files/C%20Transport%20and%20mixing%20in%20natural%20Waters/Introduction%20to%20turbulence/Properties%20of%20turbulence/Properties%20of%20turbulence.pdf"&gt;Properties of turbulence&lt;/a&gt;" , pages 3 and 4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now see that even a &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJLbyJYq5tE"&gt;smooth movement of a human body&lt;/a&gt; results in chaotic motion of the air (52 secs).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we didn't take into account at this point is the additional &lt;a href="http://sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/6_27_98/bob1.htm"&gt;strong turbulence caused by thermals&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Aviation experts define turbulence as random, unpredictable motion that occurs at the boundary between layers of air moving at different speeds. Just as the smooth flow of an ocean wave breaks up into a maelstrom of swirls and eddies when it crashes on the shore, uniformly moving layers of the atmosphere that brush against each other fragment into vortices, and other small-scale disturbances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Turbulence is often triggered when energy released by the sun-warmed ground or by a group of forming clouds heats a parcel of air at low altitude. The heated parcel rises, distorting the wind-flow pattern at higher altitudes and generating chaotic motion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[emphasis by rSpieker]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now consider the wind at 9/11 in Shanksville (13 to 17 ft/sec):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The following pictures from a scientific study to improve the performance of a chimney shows the influence of the wind at different speeds.  &lt;a href="http://www.dlg-test.de/pbdocs/5642F.pdf"&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt; (page 7):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2izhHq26yI/AAAAAAAABhM/GLFUFdeyve8/s1600-h/chimney-wind-speeds.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 99px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2izhHq26yI/AAAAAAAABhM/GLFUFdeyve8/s320/chimney-wind-speeds.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433790331998366498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Conclusion:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apart from the fact that even if a B757 crashed near Shanksville there was simply not enough energy to produce a mushroom cloud then:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If some way a "mushroom cloud" existed in the very first seconds, there is absolute no way under the atmospheric conditions of that day to keep it stable so long that Val McClatchey's camera had a chance to "see" it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;This spells the definite "End of Serenity" for Val McClatchey's picture. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;rSpieker has also found this &lt;a href="http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=850"&gt;nice aerial photo&lt;/a&gt; of the Shanksville area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2jAe8nYYYI/AAAAAAAABhU/sdfwFtg_B2c/s1600-h/indian-lake-pa-aerial.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2jAe8nYYYI/AAAAAAAABhU/sdfwFtg_B2c/s320/indian-lake-pa-aerial.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433804588322414978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-846380790467997389?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/846380790467997389/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=846380790467997389&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/846380790467997389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/846380790467997389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2009/07/end-of-serenity-of-certain-picture.html' title='The &apos;End of Serenity&apos; of a certain picture'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iu9IjXvzI/AAAAAAAABgk/Y_iKq9Fe68g/s72-c/rumpl4skn-analysis2.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-5774410131377307249</id><published>2008-12-10T22:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T00:38:59.643-08:00</updated><title type='text'>'Terrorcell':  Val's photo fake 'beyond all shadow of a doubt'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Expert Shanksville researcher &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Domenick DiMaggio&lt;/span&gt; (a.k.a. "&lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/terrorcell2008"&gt;Terrorcell&lt;/a&gt;"), who has been to Shanksville and &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Terrorcell2"&gt;interviewed&lt;/a&gt; more witnesses there than probably anyone outside the govt, has &lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5726&amp;amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=15310149"&gt;this response&lt;/a&gt; to the following poll question "&lt;b style="font-style: italic;"&gt;*If* Val's plume photo turns out to be a fake, is it evidence of a 9/11 cover-up?&lt;/b&gt;" which I started at &lt;a href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5726"&gt;911movement.org&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;bolding and hyperlink mine&lt;/span&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;yes. it absolutely is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;i know beyond all shadow of a doubt that it is a fabrication created by [most likely] the fbi&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i know this from talking to eyewitnesses who all describe a black smoke rising into the air and trailing off as one would expect from a violent explosion. none of them described a mushroom cloud and i have spoken with a witness [off the record] who agrees with &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html"&gt;kelly leverknights assessment that it is faked&lt;/a&gt;. furthermore this witness could not believe the whole i dropped my camera and couldn't load the batteries before it was gone because they said the smoke lasted for several minutes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The two question options for my poll &lt;a href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5726"&gt;were&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Yes, because the FBI were involved with the forgery.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;No, it was just a simple scam for money/fame. No govt involvement.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Domenick was one of the people who &lt;a href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=413"&gt;interviewed Susan McElwain&lt;/a&gt; who saw an unmarked silent white UAV fly a few feet over her minivan moments &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;before&lt;/span&gt; the alleged crash of Flight 93, but who never saw a Boeing 757.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5774410131377307249?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5774410131377307249/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5774410131377307249&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5774410131377307249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5774410131377307249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/12/terrorcell-vals-photo-fake-beyond-all.html' title='&apos;Terrorcell&apos;:  Val&apos;s photo fake &apos;beyond all shadow of a doubt&apos;'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-4839787232469916971</id><published>2008-09-22T12:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-22T19:13:50.804-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Two 'Flight 93 plume' videos pulled by YouTube</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two days after uploading the video &lt;a style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t9P1LUz-Ig"&gt;Spanair crash plume vs. 'Flight 93 plume'&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: verdana;" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/09/spanair-crash-plume-vs-flight-93-plume.html"&gt;blogpost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; , &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;YouTube&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;pulls&lt;/span&gt; it along with  the video &lt;a style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuw0rbF2c0w"&gt;Shanksville local says Flight 93 plume photo is fake!&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: verdana;font-size:85%;" &gt;(&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html"&gt;blogpost&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt; because of&lt;span&gt; a "copyright infringement"&lt;/span&gt; complaint issued by &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2001/11/mtn-lakes-realty-llc.html"&gt;Mtn. Lakes Realty, LLC&lt;/a&gt;, Val McClatchey's real estate business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Notices from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;YouTube&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SNf3__ueLFI/AAAAAAAABU4/AtIGx19s9gg/s1600-h/youtube-mtlakereality-spanair.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SNf3__ueLFI/AAAAAAAABU4/AtIGx19s9gg/s320/youtube-mtlakereality-spanair.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5248936569533770834" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Spanair crash plume vs. 'Flight 93 plume'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SNf4N4J0AkI/AAAAAAAABVA/i967Vg-AC9o/s1600-h/youtube-mtlakereality-fake.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SNf4N4J0AkI/AAAAAAAABVA/i967Vg-AC9o/s320/youtube-mtlakereality-fake.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5248936808019132994" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;" &gt;Shanksville local says Flight 93 plume photo is fake!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-4839787232469916971?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/4839787232469916971/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=4839787232469916971&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4839787232469916971'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4839787232469916971'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/09/two-flight-93-plume-videos-pulled-by.html' title='Two &apos;Flight 93 plume&apos; videos pulled by YouTube'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SNf3__ueLFI/AAAAAAAABU4/AtIGx19s9gg/s72-c/youtube-mtlakereality-spanair.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-1229987432090838292</id><published>2008-09-20T23:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-22T19:17:49.664-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Spanair crash plume vs. 'Flight 93 plume'</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Update 09/22/08:  YouTube &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/09/two-flight-93-plume-videos-pulled-by.html"&gt;pulls original video&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="left: 0px ! important; top: 15px ! important;" title="Click here to block this object with Adblock Plus" class="abp-objtab-03679135486529569 visible ontop" href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqwX8_ZilUo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="left: 0px ! important; top: 15px ! important;" title="Click here to block this object with Adblock Plus" class="abp-objtab-03679135486529569 visible ontop" href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqwX8_ZilUo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="left: 0px ! important; top: 15px ! important;" title="Click here to block this object with Adblock Plus" class="abp-objtab-03679135486529569 visible ontop" href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqwX8_ZilUo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqwX8_ZilUo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqwX8_ZilUo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanair_Flight_5022"&gt;Spanair Flight 5022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;crashed Aug 20, 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/end-of-serenity.2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/end-of-serenity.1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Val McClatchey's "&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2001/11/end-of-serenity-shanksvillememorialcom.html"&gt;End of Serenity&lt;/a&gt;" photo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Below was the original video.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="left: 0px ! 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"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7500917.stm"&gt;BBC&lt;/a&gt; (07/10/08)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember that Ms. Leverknight said about Val McClatchey's photo in a phone call from Jeff Hill that the original photo &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html"&gt;didn't have a mushroom cloud&lt;/a&gt; in it which means someone added one in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/end-of-serenity.2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/end-of-serenity.1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5460333722959865523?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5460333722959865523/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5460333722959865523&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5460333722959865523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5460333722959865523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/07/iran-faked-missile-test-image.html' title='Iran &apos;faked missile test image&apos;'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/SHdtsDtjAnI/AAAAAAAAA84/xvcrq8JLNhg/s72-c/iran-missile-test.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-2931409993729835501</id><published>2008-03-26T02:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-01T03:03:25.040-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Photo dispute challenges copyright law" - The Globe</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://media.www.pointparkglobe.com/media/storage/paper1255/news/2008/03/26/Perspectives/Photo.Dispute.Challenges.Copyright.Law-3284396.shtml"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-family: verdana;" href="http://media.www.pointparkglobe.com/media/storage/paper1255/news/2008/03/26/Perspectives/Photo.Dispute.Challenges.Copyright.Law-3284396.shtml"&gt;Photo dispute challenges copyright law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;By: Rebecca Shaffer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Posted: 3/26/08&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;When Somerset County resident Valencia McClatchey captured the fleeting moments of peace on a warm fall morning with her digital camera, she never thought that photograph, "End of Serenity," would be the basis for a law suit against the Associated Press (AP) over copyright infringement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;On Sept.11, 2001 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;McClatchey was at home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;, glued to the television coverage of the morning's tragic events &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;when she was shaken from her seat by a loud boom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;From her living room window she saw a large gray cloud of smoke rising over the horizon. She instinctively went to the door, grabbed her digital camera and captured the infamous image of the smoke rising&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; into the blue cloudless sky over her neighbors' red barn &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;seconds after the crash&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; of United Airlines Flight 93.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;In the ensuing months McClatchey's photograph gained so much notoriety that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;in January 2002 she obtained a copyright&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; for her famous snapshot, which was supposed to allow her the rights to control its use. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Eight months later, she would sue the AP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;, claiming that the large media organization infringed her copyrights, which the AP disputed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;According to Mass Media Law, a copyright protects a work like McClatchey's photograph from being put on display, distributed or reproduced without consent. McClatchey said that she obtained the copyright because she did not want her photo to be misused in any way and she said firmly, "When I copyright the photo, I have the rights."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;On the first anniversary of the crash McClatchey was interviewed by AP reporter Charles Sheehan. AP photographer Gene Puskar visited McClatchey a short time later and took her photo to accompany Sheehan's article.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey posed with her original photograph for Puskar. She said she believed the picture was of both her and her photograph.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey said that she also gave a copy of her photograph to Puskar as a gift. The copy contained her copyright management information. "They knew it was copyrighted," McClatchey said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Sheehan's article ran on Friday, Sept. 13, 2002&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; in numerous newspapers. Rather than a photo of McClatchey and her famous Sept.11 image, the AP published her "End of Serenity" photograph without her permission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The AP's use was based on their assumption that Puskar's use of McClatchey's copyrighted image could be used freely because it was considered news.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Then, unbeknownst to McClatchey, in August 2003 her photo appeared through the AP on America Online's Web site with an article concerning a conspiracy theory surrounding Flight 93. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;"I didn't want the photo used in conspiracy theory stories, because it degrades the passengers and crew," McClatchey said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey was horrified to discover the photograph posted on several other news Web sites who subscribe to the AP, without her permission and did not bear the copyright information.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"I didn't know it would be all over the internet," she said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;In January 2005 McClatchey filed a lawsuit in federal court against the AP concerning five counts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;, three of which dealt with copyright infringement and the other two regarding the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;McClatchey was seeking $150,000 in damages for copyright infringement and $25,000 in damages for the violations under the DMCA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;. She also requested that the AP's use of the photograph be permanently barred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey said that the AP used her photo with knowledge of her copyright, which demonstrates willful disregard. "Pure down and out willfulness," McClatchey said, shaking her head.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The AP disagrees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"In my view, this is classic fair use," Robert Penchina, AP lead legal council said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;According to Penchina, a copyright is meant to be a balanced protection for both the author of the work and also for the public's best interest, which is to be aware of what is going on in society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Penchina also said that even if the story was about the photographer and her life one year after shooting the famous photo, she was still being featured because of that photograph.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Because McClatchey had given her photo earlier to many other organizations and she later sold individual prints with a portion of the proceeds donated to charity, the AP argues its distribution of it. The AP feels that their use of the image only brought attention to it and increased its demand.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey's attorney, Doug Hall countered and said her market was large news organization that now had use of the photo from the AP. Hall compared the availability of the photo online to illegally downloading music.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"They know there is damage done but it is hard to measure how much," Hall said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;McClatchey's case lasted over two and a half years. U.S. District Court Judge Terrence McVerry summarized the situation writing in one opinion, "Puskar's assignment was to 'take pictures of a woman with a picture.' Instead, Plaintiff contends that Puskar, under false pretenses, took a picture only of the 'End of Serenity' photograph itself."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"The Sheehan article and the photograph were distributed as separate items to AP's roughly 2000 PhotoStream member news organizations without her permission," McVerry wrote.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;In November 2007 McClatchey accepted a settlement from the AP, which remains confidential.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Today, McClatchey says she would do things differently. She says that any use of her photo will be stated in writing with full disclosure. McClatchey is glad that the case has been settled and she no longer has to defend her photograph. In the end, McClatchey said, "Nothing will ever change the fact that I took the photo."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:78%;"  &gt;http://media.www.pointparkglobe.com/media/storage/paper1255/news/2008/03/26/Perspectives/Photo.Dispute.Challenges.Copyright.Law-3284396.shtml&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-2931409993729835501?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/2931409993729835501/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=2931409993729835501&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2931409993729835501'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2931409993729835501'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/03/photo-dispute-challenges-copyright-law.html' title='&quot;Photo dispute challenges copyright law&quot; - The Globe'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-6470976382905774169</id><published>2008-02-12T18:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T14:18:25.752-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Berlin_PA'/><title type='text'>Val McClatchey reportedly has amateur footage that 'vindicates' her photo</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val reportedly &lt;a href="http://www.windsorparktheater.com/news_shanksvilletrip%202007.html"&gt;showed amateur footage&lt;/a&gt; of the aftermath from the alleged Shanksville crash site at the 2007 Shanksville memorial reunion that supposedly vindicates her photo:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7JNSPCjZjI/AAAAAAAAApI/ddxocCmSs8A/s1600-h/val1.9013.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5166276698217604658" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7JNSPCjZjI/AAAAAAAAApI/ddxocCmSs8A/s200/val1.9013.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;By: Tony Mussari&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the past six years we have taken students, relatives, neighbors, friends, and friends of friends to the site of the temporary memorial of the Heroes of Flight 93.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once there we listen to Janie Kiehl, a Flight 93 Ambassador and dear friend tell the story of United 93.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Val McClatchey&lt;/span&gt; another good friend,&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; explains the history of her famous photograph, The End of Serenity&lt;/span&gt;.  Chuck and Jayne Wagner, Flight 93 Ambassadors, are usually on hand to help us and their daughter, Leigh Snyder provides our guests with her book, Patriots of Peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7JNZPCjZkI/AAAAAAAAApQ/h_aRViKTNEY/s1600-h/val2.9013.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5166276818476688962" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7JNZPCjZkI/AAAAAAAAApQ/h_aRViKTNEY/s200/val2.9013.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;At the Lutheran church hall we come together in a community dinner compliments of Janie Kiehl and her family.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;This year Val McClatchey shared a priceless piece of history with our guests.  &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;She played a DVD of the amateur video recorded in Berlin, PA, of the aftermath of the end of United 93&lt;/span&gt; and the now famous plume of black smoke that looked like a mushroom cloud.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Val McClatchey &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;it was a moment of vindication. It gave lie to the conspiracy theorists&lt;/span&gt;.  For those of us in the room, it was a chilling moment of discovery and verification of what Val’s picture had recorded for millions of people around the world. We were watching moving images of The End of Serenity. We were experiencing an historically significant event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.windsorparktheater.com/news_shanksvilletrip%202007.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;http://www.windsorparktheater.com/news_shanksvilletrip%202007.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Why did it take 6 years for this reported amateur footage to surface and when does the rest of the world get to see it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This video was reportedly filmed in Berlin, PA, which is about 9 miles SSW of the crater.  Remember that the wind near the crater was reported blowing 9 knots in a SE direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7J0HvCjZmI/AAAAAAAAApg/hu6l0GyDwn8/s1600-h/berlin.pa.9miles.from.shanksville.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5166319398782461538" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7J0HvCjZmI/AAAAAAAAApg/hu6l0GyDwn8/s320/berlin.pa.9miles.from.shanksville.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also note that I've &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; suggested that there wasn't an explosion in that empty Shanksville field, or that there was never any smoke being emitted from there.  I do not even doubt there might have been a mushroom cloud there after whatever exploded.  I just doubt than any mushroom cloud that may have formed over the immediate area around the crater grew to a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;whopping 700 yards wide&lt;/span&gt;, the width that &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;I estimate&lt;/a&gt; the plume in Val's photo had to be if it was near the crater.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-6470976382905774169?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/6470976382905774169/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=6470976382905774169&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6470976382905774169'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/6470976382905774169'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/02/val-mcclatchey-reportedly-has-amateur.html' title='Val McClatchey reportedly has amateur footage that &apos;vindicates&apos; her photo'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7JNSPCjZjI/AAAAAAAAApI/ddxocCmSs8A/s72-c/val1.9013.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-1438072288207835985</id><published>2007-11-14T00:01:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-15T01:15:33.679-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"Photographer of Flight 93 Somerset crash settles" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07318/833685-56.stm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Photographer of Flight 93 Somerset crash settles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wednesday, November 14, 2007&lt;br /&gt;Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Somerset County woman who took the only known photograph of United Airlines Flight 93 moments after the crash has settled a federal lawsuit she filed against the Associated Press.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Valencia M. McClatchey claimed the news organization violated her federal copyright by obtaining a copy of the photo and transmitting it to more than 1,000 news outlets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ms. McClatchey's attorney, Douglas Hall, said &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the parties reached a confidential settlement&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Part of the agreement, though, calls for the Associated Press to destroy copies of the photograph&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07318/833685-56.stm"&gt;http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07318/833685-56.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So will Val give all this to charity, because she's not in it for the money, right?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-1438072288207835985?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/1438072288207835985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=1438072288207835985&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1438072288207835985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1438072288207835985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/11/photographer-of-flight-93-somerset.html' title='&quot;Photographer of Flight 93 Somerset crash settles&quot; - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-8490007618627064843</id><published>2007-09-12T00:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T16:26:38.060-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Somerset Hospital marks Sept. 11 anniversary" - Daily American</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="headline"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/09/12/news/news576.txt"&gt;&lt;span class="headline"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Somerset Hospital marks Sept. 11 anniversary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;                                        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="content"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="byline"&gt;By MADOLIN EDWARDS&lt;br /&gt;Daily American Staff Writer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="byline"&gt;Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:25 AM EDT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                                                                                                                      &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;                                                                                               &lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;“We were ready Sept. 11 and then it took the wind out of our sails,” said Somerset Hospital’s director of corporate communications, Greg Chiappelli.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was talking about hospital employees who were ready to offer medical help on Sept. 11, 2001, but in the end, weren’t needed.                                He mentioned this commemoration to employees prior to a Sept. 11, 2001, memorial service Tuesday, which was sponsored by the Pastoral Care Committee at Somerset Hospital. Hospital employees, as well as the public, were invited to the service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Rev. Ruth Ann Campagna and the Rev. Mark Bendes offered prayers and scripture. Danny Conner performed two musical selections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Valencia McClatchey was the featured speaker. She took the photo “The End of Serenity” of the smoke from the Flight 93 plane crash in the field near her home.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;McClatchey said she heard a tremendously loud noise, unlike anything she’s heard in her years of living near coal mines, and looked outside of her house to see a flash like sunlight reflecting off a plane. &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;She said she always has a camera by the door because she has a friend who is a helicopter pilot and does training runs around the Indian Lake area.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;She said her friend will fly by her house&lt;/span&gt;, and she wanted to be ready to get a photo of him flying over for a car club newsletter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Then she saw the mushroom cloud. She took the photo that has made the news all over the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She said she called the photo, which now hangs in the Smithsonian Institute, “The End of Serenity” because it was the end of our peaceful lives as we knew them to be. She said we are slowly getting back to that, but that we’ll never forget Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: verdana;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RujodSCFHQI/AAAAAAAAAew/-yApP8UYr6A/s1600-h/val-dailyamerican.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RujodSCFHQI/AAAAAAAAAew/-yApP8UYr6A/s200/val-dailyamerican.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5109589367006240002" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Valencia McClatchey, the woman who took the photo “The End of Serenity” on Sept. 11, 2001, of the mushroom cloud after United Flight 93 crashed near Shanksville, was the guest speaker at Somerset Hospital’s memorial service Tuesday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:78%;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/09/12/news/news576.txt"&gt;http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/09/12/news/news576.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-8490007618627064843?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/8490007618627064843/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=8490007618627064843&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/8490007618627064843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/8490007618627064843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/09/somerset-hospital-marks-sept-11.html' title='&quot;Somerset Hospital marks Sept. 11 anniversary&quot; - Daily American'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RujodSCFHQI/AAAAAAAAAew/-yApP8UYr6A/s72-c/val-dailyamerican.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-7829747548647457424</id><published>2007-09-10T16:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-28T17:23:57.674-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Picture Made on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer" - NY Times</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Response to this article below.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Secondary NY Times title:  &lt;a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE0DB1031F932A2575AC0A9619C8B63"&gt;A Sept. 11 Photo Brings Out the Conspiracy Theorists&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;September 10, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: verdana; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/us/10cnd-shanksville.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Picture Made on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;By SEAN D. HAMILL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RuX0fIz8g-I/AAAAAAAAAdo/ZOKk0b3k0L0/s1600-h/93memorial-nyt.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5108758168100176866" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RuX0fIz8g-I/AAAAAAAAAdo/ZOKk0b3k0L0/s200/93memorial-nyt.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emily Jerich told visitors at a temporary memorial for victims of United Flight 93 about a photograph that Valencia M. McClatchey took of the crash on Sept. 11, 2001. In numerous online postings, critics have ripped apart every element of the photo, and Mrs. McClatchey’s life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;SHANKSVILLE, Pa. , Sept. 7 — Valencia M. McClatchey thought she was doing the right thing when she gave the F.B.I. a copy of her photo of the mushroom cloud that rose over the hill outside her home after United Flight 93 crashed in a field here on Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;And, after it became apparent that hers was the only known picture of that ominous, gray cloud — and the first shot after Flight 93 crashed — she thought she was still doing the right thing when she gave copies to people who asked for them, and let newspapers and television stations use it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;But fame for the photo has had an unexpected cost for the photographer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;“Every time I’ve done any stories it goes online and all these conspiracy theorists start up and they call me and harass me,” said Mrs. McClatchey, 51, who runs her own real estate company.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;In numerous online postings, critics have ripped apart every element of the photo, and Mrs. McClatchey’s life. They accuse her of faking the photo, of profiteering from it and of being part of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that Flight 93 was shot down by the government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;They claim the mushroom cloud is from an ordnance blast, not a jet crashing; the cloud is the wrong color for burning jet fuel; the cloud is too small and in the wrong position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;They’ve posted her personal e-mail, phone numbers and street address online. One Canadian “9/11 debunker” surreptitiously taped a phone conversation with her, quizzing her about the photo, and then uploaded it to his Web site.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;“It’s just gotten so bad, I’m just fed up with it,” Mrs. McClatchey said. “This thing has become too much of a distraction in my life. I have a husband and a new business to deal with, too.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;The F.B.I., the Smithsonian Institution&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt; — which used the photo in an exhibition on Sept. 11 — &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;and the National Park Service’s Flight 93 National Memorial&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt; — which has used the photo in pamphlets — &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;all consider the photo legitimate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;“We have no reason to doubt it,” said Bill Crowley&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;, an agent who is a spokesman for the Pittsburgh F.B.I. office, which oversaw evidence collection in Shanksville.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;Along with the rest of the nation, Mrs. McClatchey was watching the coverage of the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington when &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;she was shaken from her couch by a ground-shaking blast just over a mile away. She grabbed her new digital camera and took just one picture from her front porch.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;It is a simple photo, showing a sloping green farm field, with a brilliant red barn in the foreground. Hovering above the barn in a brilliant blue sky is an ominous, dark gray mushroom cloud. Mrs. McClatchey named the photo “The End of Serenity.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;Barbara Black, acting site manager for the Flight 93 memorial, said, “What makes the image so powerful is that it’s this serene scene in Pennsylvania, this typical red barn, green trees, and then this terrible cloud above it that changed our life here forever.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;At the temporary memorial site, Flight 93 “ambassadors,” local residents who volunteer to tell visitors what happened here, always start the story by showing people Mrs. McClatchey’s photo.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;From the beginning, Mrs. McClatchey said, she tried to use the photograph to help remember the 40 passengers on Flight 93. She sells copies to people and lets them choose whether $18 of the $20 fee goes to the Flight 93 National Memorial or the Heroic Choices organization&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt; (formerly the Todd Beamer Foundation).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;To ensure that she controlled distribution of the photograph, in January 2002 she copyrighted it. To “protect the integrity of the photo,” Mrs. McClatchey said, she filed suit in 2005 against The Associated Press, saying that it violated her copyright by distributing the photo to its clients as part of a story. The lawsuit is pending.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;One of Mrs. McClatchey’s neighbors here defended her against the allegations of the people he called the “Internet crazies.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The McClatcheys “are as good neighbors as you could possibly have,” said Robert Musser, who owns the red barn that is so prominent in Mrs. McClatchey’s photo.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;To accommodate visitors who will show up on Sept. 11 to recreate the picture, and who eventually find their way to the Mussers’ 94-year-old barn, they’ve tried to spruce it up this past week, adding a touch of paint. They plan to spend thousands in the near future to shore up the foundation on one side so the barn will endure for years to come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;“Here this barn could fall down, and it’s in the picture that’s so famous,” said Mr. Musser’s wife, Phyllis. “We have to do something.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RuXbeIz8g9I/AAAAAAAAAdg/JPDNClw8Vrc/s1600-h/eos-nyt.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5108730663129613266" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RuXbeIz8g9I/AAAAAAAAAdg/JPDNClw8Vrc/s200/eos-nyt.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%; font-style: italic;"&gt;"The photograph Valencia M. McClatchey took from her front porch on Sept. 11, 2001."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/us/10cnd-shanksville.html"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/us/10cnd-shanksville.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This NY Times article is very misleading, gets a major point wrong and again, fails to mention me by name (so what's new?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, they say "we" accuse Val for taking part of the cover-up of Flight 93 being shot down.  I have never made that claim, especially when I think it never crashed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, they say my claim is that the plume in her photo is too small, but my claim is that her plume is too big, &lt;i&gt;7 football fields&lt;/i&gt; too big!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Third, they make it sound like I posted her email, phone numbers, and address as if they were all private. I posted &lt;a href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html"&gt;her home address, which is posted on the website that advertises her photo&lt;/a&gt; for sale and posted &lt;a href="http://www.mtnlakesrealty.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR182788/EXTRA2/Central+City/1185642531.html"&gt;her work phone number from her own business' website that also advertises the photo&lt;/a&gt; for sale.  I posted her email address from the email she sent me, but after I checked and saw &lt;a href="http://www.hemmings.com/clubs/detail.html?hmn_club_id=1441007"&gt;her email address is publicly available on the net&lt;/a&gt; too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Btw, did you notice the title of this NY Times article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Picture Made&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Picture made".  Well, guess they got something right.  ; )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-7829747548647457424?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/7829747548647457424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=7829747548647457424&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7829747548647457424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7829747548647457424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/09/picture-made-on-911-takes-toll-on.html' title='&quot;Picture Made on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer&quot; - NY Times'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RuX0fIz8g-I/AAAAAAAAAdo/ZOKk0b3k0L0/s72-c/93memorial-nyt.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-4435868682003961727</id><published>2007-08-27T19:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-10T01:31:13.967-07:00</updated><title type='text'>History Channel's 9/11 conspiracies episode featured 'Flight 93 Photo Fraud' blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The History Channel showed a fairly lengthy segment about this blog on their  &lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=103790"&gt;The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction&lt;/a&gt; hit piece.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="left: 0px ! important; top: 15px ! important;" title="Click here to block this object with Adblock Plus" class="abp-objtab-005869302939557819 visible ontop" href="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7225010773007638690&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;embed style="width: 400px; height: 326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7225010773007638690&amp;amp;hl=en" flashvars=""&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To no one's surprise, the History Channel got most of my claims about Val, her photo, and what happened to Flight 93 wrong and they didn't even bring up most of the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;evidence I presented&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;such as the plume in her photo being about &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;7 football fields wide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) that shows her photo proves that the official story of Flight 93 crashing is a fraud or that her photo is a fraud other than the plume in her photo couldn't have been from a plane crashing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, there are a couple of interesting things in their clip about her photo.  Here is the breakdown in order:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- First the show a picture of Val's house, but notice they only show the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;back&lt;/span&gt; of her house.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RtW_Uoz8g2I/AAAAAAAAAco/ZCmqbe1vKdo/s1600-h/vals-house.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RtW_Uoz8g2I/AAAAAAAAAco/ZCmqbe1vKdo/s200/vals-house.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5104196113967907682" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;They &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; show the front where she allegedly took her photo.  Why the big deal?  Well I've been informed that Val has since remolded the front of her house after 9/11.  Not bad for &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2001/09/mcclatcheys-files-bankruptcy-on-their.html"&gt;filing bankruptcy&lt;/a&gt; on their business 9 days after 9/11 and was in danger of losing their house too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Also note that they only show the red barn featured on the right of her photo and never the white barn seen on the left side of her photo.  That white barn is &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/09/photo-gallery-pittsburghlivecom.html"&gt;now painted red&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- She says she heard a load surge of an engine.  What the History Channel doesn't tell you is that Val said &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/09/day-that-changed-america-pittsburgh.html"&gt;she heard this roar of an engine over Indian Lake&lt;/a&gt; which is in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;opposite&lt;/span&gt; direction that Flight 93 allegedly flew in at.  Val then skips the part where she had said that she almost got &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/09/day-that-changed-america-pittsburgh.html"&gt;knocked off her couch&lt;/a&gt; from the shock wave from the "crash" of Flight 93 and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; is why she jumped up to grab her camera.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The narrator then says Val says 9/11 conspiracists have "harassed her" with emails and phone calls.  I've &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; contacted Val by any method ever.  However, &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2004/11/val-threatens-to-sue-killtown-over-her.html"&gt;Val has sent &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt; a harrassing email threatening to sue me&lt;/a&gt; for putting her photo on my website (not this blog).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next they say that we, the conspiracists who think her photo is a fraud, think Flight 93 was shot down and "accuse" Val of being a part of it.  I've &lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/killtown/#archived_news"&gt;stopped thinking&lt;/a&gt; Flight 93 was shot down years before I discovered Val's photo was a fraud and I now think the &lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-flight93crashcom-spook-site.html"&gt;shot-down theory was started on purpose&lt;/a&gt; to distract from &lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html"&gt;Flight 93 not crashing in shanksville&lt;/a&gt;.  I've also never said that I thought Val was part of some conspiracy involving Flight 93 being shot down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing to notice about History Channel's segment of my claim that her photo is a fraud is that they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;didn't&lt;/span&gt; even have any of their "experts" try to debunk &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;my analysis&lt;/a&gt; showing that the plume on Val's photo is way to big and is about 250 yards south of the crater!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-4435868682003961727?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/4435868682003961727/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=4435868682003961727&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4435868682003961727'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4435868682003961727'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/08/history-channels-911-conspiracies.html' title='History Channel&apos;s 9/11 conspiracies episode featured &apos;Flight 93 Photo Fraud&apos; blog'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RtW_Uoz8g2I/AAAAAAAAAco/ZCmqbe1vKdo/s72-c/vals-house.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-8963648734244708994</id><published>2007-07-31T13:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-29T14:28:46.712-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Did Val actually photograph the small white mystery aircraft at Shanksville?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;New &lt;a href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=501&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=14173876"&gt;theory&lt;/a&gt; by Domenick DiMaggio (a.k.a. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Terrorcell2"&gt;Terrorcell&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Other than a blanket statement of "I don't believe Val's picture to be that of a 757 crash" I've never really spoken publicly on the matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe Val McClatchey is telling the truth to an extent and covering up something much bigger to another extent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one looks at Val's pic then it would appear that this photo had to be taken within 2-6 seconds that being because the smoke isn't "drifting off" but is still in the conceptual stage from the massive explosion which took place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;We know according to eyewitness Susan McElwain that &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ"&gt;a small white UAV&lt;/a&gt; was there at that exact moment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;. After speaking privately with some unpublished accounts and some published accounts it has been confirmed that the little white UAV was present at the scene.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Val, she dropped her camera and the batteries came out of it. In the time it took her to pick them back up and place them in the camera the smoke from this massive explosion was gone. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People drove to the explosion from different areas. They drove towards this massive billowing smoke cloud from over 5 miles away. It's safe to assume one can reload batteries into a camera in the time it would take an individual driving 5+ miles at 50MPH(est fastest speed given terrain)- mostly rural windy roads in the area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Val also stated a plane flew over her house before the explosion. She stated it sounded like a small plane but insists it was Flight 93. Of course we know this not to be true because at no point did Flight 93 ever fly towards the North.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt; That would mean the "struggle" we were told was taking place on board quite possibly was successful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Val's house is totally inconsistent with the flight path of the UAV as well. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;It is possible the fighter jets witnessed in the area passed over Val's house.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; That would also be consistent with the blast direction of the explosion being towards the west and into the woods.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Eyewitness accounts put the UAV at the site for minutes after the explosion "flying around like he was looking for something." According to Val though she didn't take anymore pics with her digital camera. Just that one. And that is where Val McClathchey is not telling the truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The FBI took her camera, her computer, &amp; memory stick. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;This was in order to clean all of these of the CLASSIFIED UAV which Val managed to capture on film.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt; The FBI would have also checked and confirmed that any images weren't sent out via email to anyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A local Shanksville area is currently writing a book that tells 'her' side of the story. If the female author of this book is who &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;I suspect it is then Val is now writing a book detailing her 9/11 experience and life after 9/11 and dealing with "internet conspiracy kooks" in her post 9/11 life&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;. I hope, in fact I am pleading with Val (because I suspect one way or another she will be reading this), to TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH IN HER BOOK.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;DO NOT LEAVE OUT THE UAV WHICH WAS SEEN THAT DAY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People are coming forward everyday. Some are willing to speak publicly like Susan has and others are not so willing out of fear. But there are more than enough who collaborate the story told by Susan McElwain that morning. And if Val really wants all the "internet conspiracy kooks" to finally stop then she needs to come clean. Otherwise history will look unfavorably upon her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;The FBI gave Val the image she titled "End of Serenity" and sells over the internet and various local places&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;. So whether or not the image itself is fake is still debatable. I can't really pick one side or the other anymore. I don't believe it to be the smoke plume that is created from a massive jet fuel explosion. Perhaps the FBI gave Val a faked pic and she could be totally unaware it is a manipulated image or perhaps the image is genuine and not reflective of a jet fuel induced explosion. Either way Val knows something she isn't talking about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you read this Val please feel free to contact me at Reichstag_911@yahoo.com&lt;br /&gt;If you have any doubt about my integrity or whether or not I am a man of my word than you need to speak to your friend John at the COF Motel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What you can't do though is call me "another one of those anonymous internet kooks".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the bare minimum you know I am telling the 100% TRUTH about the UAV that was there that morning. You saw it with your own eyes....just like everyone else who was in the vacinity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Domenick DiMaggio&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Discuss further at &lt;a href="http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=501"&gt;911movement.org&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-8963648734244708994?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/8963648734244708994/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=8963648734244708994&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/8963648734244708994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/8963648734244708994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/07/did-val-actually-photograph-small-white.html' title='Did Val actually photograph the small white mystery aircraft at Shanksville?'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-2340138448466244601</id><published>2007-07-31T02:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-13T02:38:02.293-08:00</updated><title type='text'>MCCLATCHEY v. ASSOCIATED PRESS</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/pawdce/3:2005cv00145/66017/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;MCCLATCHEY v. ASSOCIATED PRESS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plaintiff Valencia McClatchey alleged that defendant the Associated Press (AP) over the AP's unauthorized use of her copyright End of Serenity photograph.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plaintiff:    VALENCIA M. MCCLATCHEY&lt;br /&gt;Defendant:    ASSOCIATED PRESS&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Case Number:    3:2005cv00145&lt;br /&gt;Filed:    February 24, 2005&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Court:    Pennsylvania Western District Court&lt;br /&gt;Office:    Johnstown Office&lt;br /&gt;County:    Somerset&lt;br /&gt;Presiding Judge:    Terrence F. McVerry&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nature of Suit:    Intellectual Property - Copyrights&lt;br /&gt;Cause:    17:101 Copyright Infringement&lt;br /&gt;Jurisdiction:    Federal Question&lt;br /&gt;Jury Demanded By:    Plaintiff&lt;br /&gt;Amount Demanded:    $0.00&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Available Case Documents&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The following documents for this case are available for you to view or download.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/pawdce/3:2005cv00145/66017/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/pawdce/3:2005cv00145/66017/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/pawdce/3:2005cv00145/66017/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-2340138448466244601?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/2340138448466244601/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=2340138448466244601&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2340138448466244601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2340138448466244601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/07/mcclatchey-v-associated-press.html' title='MCCLATCHEY v. ASSOCIATED PRESS'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-1856949789275693752</id><published>2007-07-02T02:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-13T02:41:52.272-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"Court Finds Single Act of Copyright Infringement Where Infringing Photo Was Distributed Numerous Times" - Winston &amp; Strawn LLP</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;July 2, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Court Finds Single Act of Copyright Infringement Where Infringing Photo Was Distributed Numerous Times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On September 11, 2001, Valencia McClatchey took a photograph of the mushroom cloud caused by the crash of United Fight 93. Although she obtained copyright of the image, the Associated Press allegedly distributed the image though its PhotoStream service to various AP members.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When McClatchey learned her photo was being used without permission, she sued AP for copyright infringement, alleging that each distribution to various Associated Press customers constituted an infringement. However, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the court held that AP was only liable for the single act of releasing the photo to subscribers, even though the photo was re-distributed by AP to numerous parties&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TIP: In the event that you are accused of copyright infringement, and you are attempting to negotiate a settlement, this case may be helpful in attempting to limit the calculation of damages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.winston.com/index.Cfm?contentid=34&amp;amp;itemid=2381"&gt;http://www.winston.com/index.Cfm?contentid=34&amp;amp;itemid=2381&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.winston.com/index.Cfm?contentid=34&amp;amp;itemid=2381"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-1856949789275693752?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/1856949789275693752/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=1856949789275693752&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1856949789275693752'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1856949789275693752'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/07/court-finds-single-act-of-copyright.html' title='&quot;Court Finds Single Act of Copyright Infringement Where Infringing Photo Was Distributed Numerous Times&quot; - Winston &amp; Strawn LLP'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-1442712303789986967</id><published>2007-06-15T15:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-11T15:41:39.773-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Fair Use and Photos of 9-11, McClatchey v. AP</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;June 15, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://thefairuseblog.typepad.com/the_fair_use_blog/2007/06/fair_use_and_ph.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;Fair Use and Photos of 9-11, McClatchey v. AP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;In a decision dated June 4, 2007 the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania considered pretrial arguments for the McClatchey v. AP case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;On September 11, 2001, Valencia McClatchey took a photograph of the mushroom cloud caused by the crash of United Fight 93. She obtained copyright of the image and title it &lt;a href="http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesEagle/AttacksonUS/Shanksville.jpg"&gt;"End of Serenity."&lt;/a&gt; While doing a story about McClatchey a year later, Associated Press reporter, Charles Sheehan, took a photo of a copy of "End of Serenity" which included the title and copyright notice. Associated Press then allegedly cropped the title and copyright notice out of the image and distributed the unattributed image though their PhotoStream service to various AP members.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;In August of 2003, McClatchey learned her photo was being used on AOL's homepage without permission and that AOL had obtained the image from AP. McClatchey brought suit against AP for direct copyright infringement, contributory infringement, vicarious infringement, and for removing and distributing false copyright information in violation of the DMCA.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;This hearing made a decision regarding six pretrial motions: (1) motion in limine to exclude certain documents and testimony regarding AOL by AP; (2) motion in limine to limit plaintiff to one statutory damage award under the copyright act by AP; (3) motion in limine to limit plaintiff to two statutory damage awards under the DMCA by AP; (4) motion in limine to exclude certain documents and testimony regarding iPhotoart by AP; (5) first motion in limine to preclude Eric N. Lieberman from testifying at trial by Valencia M. McClatchey; and (6) motion in limine to exclude certain documents and testimony regarding alleged third-party infringements by AP.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The first motion, the motion to exclude certain documents and testimony regarding AOL by AP, is the only motion that touches on fair use issues. AP wanted the court to exclude documents and testimony related to the publication of McClatchey's image by AOL. AP claimed the AOL had a "separate and independent right to make fair use of the photograph," which would make AOL's use noninfringing, making AP not liable for contributory or vicarious infringement. McClatchey claimed that AOL's use was not "fair use" and was instead a direct infringement, and that evidence of that infringement is relevant for proving "AP distributed the photograph to its subscribers." The Court found that a fair use analysis of AOL's use would be relevant for the case and denied the motion to exclude.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The Court granted the second motion, the motion to limit plaintiff to one statutory damage award under the copyright act by AP, and imposed a limit on AP's statutory damages to one award, following the statute on damages in 17 U.S.C. § 504©(1).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The Court granted the third motion, the motion to limit plaintiff to two statutory damage awards under the DMCA, reasoning that under 17 U.S.C. § 1203©(1), the term "each violation" refers to "each violative act performed by Defendant." Therefore AP could only be liable for the one time it distributed McMclatchey's imagine, even though it was distributed to multiple parties.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The Court denied the fourth motion, the motion to exclude certain documents and testimony regarding iPhotoArt by AP, reasoning that the evidence about the price of other historic images solid by iPhotoArt was a good benchmark for the value of McClatchey's image.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The Court denied the fifth motion, the motion to preclude Eric N. Lieberman from testifying at trial by McClatchey, reasoning that the factors laid out in Quinn v. Consolidated Freightways Corp. of Delaware, 283 F.3d 572, 577 (3d Cir. 2002) (importance of the testimony, prejudice or surprise in facto to opposing party, ability of that party to cure the prejudice, disruption of trial and bad faith of willfulness), supported AP's argument to deny the motion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The Court granted the sixth motion, the motion to exclude alleged third-party infringement, since McClatchey did not have any evidence of infringement by the third parties AP sought to exclude.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;McClatchey v. AP, 2007 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 40416, was decided on June 4, 2007. The opinion was written by Judge Terrence F. McVerry.  The trial is scheduled for June 25, 2007, and should provide some interesting fair use analysis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;For only $20 you can order your very own copy of End of Serenity in 8.5 X 11 format &lt;a href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;By Matthew Sag (Dan Rothenberg contributed to this post)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: verdana;" href="http://thefairuseblog.typepad.com/the_fair_use_blog/2007/06/fair_use_and_ph.html"&gt;http://thefairuseblog.typepad.com/the_fair_use_blog/2007/06/fair_use_and_ph.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: verdana;" href="http://thefairuseblog.typepad.com/the_fair_use_blog/2007/06/fair_use_and_ph.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-1442712303789986967?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/1442712303789986967/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=1442712303789986967&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1442712303789986967'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1442712303789986967'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/06/fair-use-and-photos-of-9-11-mcclatchey.html' title='Fair Use and Photos of 9-11, McClatchey v. AP'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-3370831932108328970</id><published>2007-04-12T15:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-14T17:53:28.281-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Lawsuit over 9/11 photo heads to trial" - Tribune-Democrat</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_102232748.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lawsuit over 9/11 photo heads to trial&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;April 12, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BY SANDRA K. REABUCK&lt;br /&gt;The Tribune-Democrat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SHANKSVILLE — A Somerset County woman’s lawsuit is headed for trial on whether The Associated Press infringed on the copyright of the famous photo she took seconds after the crash of United Flight 93.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The picture depicts a mushroom cloud of gray smoke rising above the pastoral landscape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;U.S. District Judge Terrence McVerry of Pittsburgh refused to throw out the lawsuit Valencia McClatchey filed in 2005 against The AP&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey, who lives along Osage Path in Indian Lake Borough, grabbed her camera when she heard a “boom” and saw smoke as she was watching TV coverage of planes hitting the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She told The Tribune-Democrat in a September interview that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;she managed to snap just the one photo – and didn’t recognize its significance until later&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The compelling photo of the smoke against a blue sky with a red barn and rolling hills in the foreground has come to symbolize how the war on terror began in the hills of Somerset County.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;She titled it “End of Serenity” and received federal copyright protection for the photo in January 2002&lt;/span&gt;, according to the lawsuit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;It turned out that the photo is the only one of the immediate aftermath of the Flight 93 crash.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An enlarged version is on display at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The AP used the photo with a story about McClatchey and also put it on a downloadable database without her permission, McClatchey asserts. &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;She is seeking at least $150,000 in damages, plus any profits AP realized.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The AP has denied copyright infringement and has sought to have the judge dismiss the lawsuit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McVerry rejected the AP’s contention that its use was permissible under a “fair use doctrine.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The wire service contends McClatchey consented to the use of the photo&lt;/span&gt;, but the judge said a factual dispute exists on that issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AP’s story about McClatchey was written after the one-year anniversary of 9/11. The day that she was interviewed by an AP reporter, an AP photographer identified as Gene Puskar went to her home to photograph her for the story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The crux of this case involves the details of the interaction between Mr. Puskar and Ms. Mc-Clatchey,” the judge said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;McClatchey contends Puskar snapped a photo of her photograph that included her title and the copyright information, but later cropped them out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;She contends the story and photo were distributed as separate items to AP’s 2,000 Photo-Stream member news organizations without her permission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She later learned it was being used on AOL’s home page.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;AP contends its use of the photo was proper and was done with McClatchey’s consent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McVerry was assigned the case this year after U.S. District Judge Kim Gibson, a Somerset County resident who presides in the Johnstown federal court, removed himself from the case to avoid the appearance of a conflict.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McVerry has not yet set a trial date. But he has set a pretrial conference for April 20 in Pittsburgh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey’s attorneys al-ready have filed a pretrial statement, and the AP’s is due Wednesday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McVerry’s decision not to dismiss the lawsuit was issued March 9.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_102232748.html"&gt;http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_102232748.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/judge-preserves-lawsuit-over-sept-11.html"&gt;Judge preserves lawsuit over Sept. 11 photo&lt;/a&gt; - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-3370831932108328970?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/3370831932108328970/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=3370831932108328970&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/3370831932108328970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/3370831932108328970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/lawsuit-over-911-photo-heads-to-trial_12.html' title='&quot;Lawsuit over 9/11 photo heads to trial&quot; - Tribune-Democrat'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-1439695130466341182</id><published>2007-04-10T16:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-12T16:46:23.004-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"Printed Credit Line on Photo May Be 'Management Information' Under DMCA" - Media Law Reporter</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Media Law Reporter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"&gt;Volume: 35 Number: 15&lt;br /&gt;April 10, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-6ZZHDD"&gt;Printed Credit Line on Photo May Be 'Management Information' Under DMCA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- DO NOT MODIFY THIS LINE - Begin Imported HTML --&gt;   &lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G4Y6"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G4Y7"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Printed credit information on a photograph composed using a computer program may constitute “copyright management information” whose alteration is prohibited under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania ruled March 9 (&lt;i&gt;McClatchey v. Associated Press,&lt;/i&gt; W.D. Pa., No. 3:05-cv-145, 3/9/07).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Denying the Associated Press's motion for summary judgment, the court sustained claims by a woman who took a picture of the hijacked United Airlines airplane that crashed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G4Z0"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;h3&gt;Plane Crashed Near Plaintiff's House.&lt;/h3&gt;  &lt;p&gt;On the day of the terrorist attacks, Valencia M. McClatchey of Shanksville, Pa., was a witness to the crash of United Flight 93 near her house. She photographed her view of a column of smoke rising from the wreckage. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;She gave the image the title “The End of Serenity” and registered it with the U.S. Copyright Office&lt;/span&gt;. The image has been displayed in public on several occasions, and &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;McClatchey licensed the image several times for one-time use by news organizations and sold copies of it&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In 2002, Charles Sheehan, a writer for the Associated Press, met McClatchey and wrote an article about her. Then, Gene Puskar, an AP photographer, was assigned to take a photograph to accompany Sheehan's article. The photograph subsequently distributed on the AP's photo wire was an image of “The End of Serenity.”&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In 2003, McClatchey discovered that “The End of Serenity” was posted on America Online's Web site accompanying a story about a conspiracy theory. McClatchey learned that AOL had obtained the image from the AP.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;McClatchey sued, alleging that Puskar had photographed a print of “The End of Serenity” in McClatchey's photo album and then had cropped out the copyright information. McClatchey alleged copyright infringement, contributory and vicarious infringement, and removing copyright information and distributing false copyright information.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The AP--arguing that the copy McClatchey had at home did not include copyright information and that the use was fair use--moved for summary judgment on all claims.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G4Z6"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;h3&gt;Fair Use Claim Survives Motion.&lt;/h3&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Judge Terrence F. McVerry first determined that the court could not resolve the fair use issue at the summary judgment stage because there existed outstanding questions of material fact. First, the court said, the use made by the AP might reasonably be construed as a commercial rather than educational use. The court, noting that the AP distributed the image separately from Sheehan's article without any notation that the two must be used together, said:&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G4Z8"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 3pt 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;The text of the article focused on the woman who took the “End of Serenity” photograph and Ms. McClatchey believed that Puskar was taking a photograph of her holding that photograph. A year [had] passed from the time of the crash depicted in the photograph and the article described the events in [McClatchey]'s life during that year. Although the photograph certainly depicts a newsworthy event, that event was no longer timely and had been extensively chronicled. Thus, there was arguably no significant “newsworthiness” in disseminating the photograph, by itself, a year later.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The remaining three fair use factors could also be reasonably judged as weighing in McClatchey's favor after a full examination of the facts, the court concluded.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Turning to the secondary liability claims, the court concluded that there did seem to be some evidence of secondary infringement by the AP's subscribers, and that McClatchey had pleaded prima facie cases for both contributory and vicarious infringement.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G5A1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;h3&gt;Printed Information Might Be Protected.&lt;/h3&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Finally, the court determined that there also existed outstanding issues of material fact concerning McClatchey's crediting claims under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, 17 U.S.C. §1202.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Section 1202(a) prohibits the provision and distribution of false “copyright management information.” Section 1202(c) creates eight categories of such information that is conveyed together with copies of works.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The AP argued that those provisions did not apply here, because the copyright notice on McClatchey's photographs was an ordinary printed or written notice, not digitized code accompanying a digitized work.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The court concluded that McClatchey's use of a computer program to print hard copies of her photograph with the copyright information qualified as copyright management information under the DMCA. Citing &lt;i&gt;IQ Group Ltd. v. Weisner Publishers LLC&lt;/i&gt;,  409 F.Supp.2d 587 (D.N.J. 2006), the court said:&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;&lt;a name="EIN_A0B4F8G5A6"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 3pt 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:-1;"&gt;Ms. McClatchey testified in her deposition that she used the My Advanced Brochures software program on her computer, in a two-step process, to print the title, her name and the copyright notice on all printouts of the photograph. The Court finds that this technological process comes within the digital “copyright management information” as defined in the statute. Moreover, Section 1202(c) defines the term broadly to include “any” of the information set forth in the eight categories, “including in digital form.” To avoid rendering those terms superfluous, the statute must also protect non-digital information.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The full text of &lt;i&gt;McClatchey v. Associated Press&lt;/i&gt; will be published in an upcoming issue of &lt;i&gt;Media Law Reporter&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-6ZZHDD"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-6ZZHDD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-6ZZHDD"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-1439695130466341182?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/1439695130466341182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=1439695130466341182&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1439695130466341182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/1439695130466341182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/printed-credit-line-on-photo-may-be.html' title='&quot;Printed Credit Line on Photo May Be &apos;Management Information&apos; Under DMCA&quot; - Media Law Reporter'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-239366104580269680</id><published>2007-04-03T12:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-14T15:31:49.567-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Judge preserves lawsuit over Sept. 11 photo" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07093/774585-85.stm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Judge preserves lawsuit over Sept. 11 photo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Tuesday, April 03, 2007&lt;br /&gt;By Milan Simonich, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Valencia McClatchey, an amateur photographer who claims The Associated Press pirated her historic picture of the Sept. 11 attacks, is entitled to her day in court, a Pittsburgh judge has ruled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mrs. McClatchey took the picture seconds after hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 crashed near her home in Somerset County.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her photo shows a blue sky, a red barn and a towering cloud of gray smoke from the downed jet, whose 44 passengers died in the crash near Shanksville.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Mrs. McClatchey received a federal copyright for the photo in January 2002&lt;/span&gt;, four months after snapping it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;She says Associated Press photographer Gene Puskar surreptitiously copied the photo later in 2002 and the wire service distributed it to 2,000 news organizations without her permission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lawyers for the AP counter that the wire service used the photo with her consent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We vigorously disagree with Mrs. McClatchey and will respond in court at the appropriate time," said Michael Berry, an AP attorney.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;U.S. District Judge Terrence McVerry last month denied the AP's motion for summary judgment. He told both sides to file summaries of their cases before a pretrial conference April 20.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mrs. McClatchey, 51, says in her lawsuit that she agreed to be photographed with her picture for an AP story marking the one-year anniversary of the attacks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;She says Mr. Puskar duped her by taking a photograph of her photograph. She claims he also cropped the photo to remove the copyright notice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lawyers for the AP say Mrs. McClatchey's account is untrue. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;In her deposition, they said, she admitted that the only copy of the photo in her home was a framed one that did not carry any mention of the copyright.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once the AP distributed the photo without her authorization, Mrs. McClatchey says, it appeared in The Washington Post and Philadelphia Daily News.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before her trouble with the AP, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Mrs. McClatchey had licensed the use of her photo to various news organizations, including the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Newsweek and ABC. &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;She generally charged $250 to $350 for one-time use of the picture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, admitting she did not know how much freelance photographers commanded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;She is seeking $150,000 in damages&lt;/span&gt;, contending the AP was guilty of "willful infringement" of the copyright.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aside from marketing the photo to news companies, Mrs. McClatchey sold personal copies. She charged $20 for each, $18 of which went to the Todd Beamer Foundation. Mr. Beamer was a passenger on Flight 93. The rest of the money from personal sales went for paper and printing costs, her lawyers said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Milan Simonich can be reached at msimonich@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1956. )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07093/774585-85.stm"&gt;http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07093/774585-85.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/lawsuit-over-911-photo-heads-to-trial_12.html"&gt;Lawsuit over 9/11 photo heads to trial&lt;/a&gt; - Tribune-Democrat (04/12/07)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/01/end-of-serenity-is-copyrighted.html"&gt;'End of serenity' is copyrighted&lt;/a&gt; (01/29/02)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-239366104580269680?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/239366104580269680/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=239366104580269680&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/239366104580269680'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/239366104580269680'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/04/judge-preserves-lawsuit-over-sept-11.html' title='&quot;Judge preserves lawsuit over Sept. 11 photo&quot; - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-321980977902321795</id><published>2007-03-31T12:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-13T00:41:07.085-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Blogger recording phone calls to Sept. 11 witnesses" - Daily American</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This article is about Jeff from &lt;a href="http://pumpitout.com/"&gt;Pumpitout.com&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/03/31/news/sunday/news03.txt" target="_blank"&gt;Blogger recording phone calls to Sept. 11 witnesses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By ROB GEBHART&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Daily American Staff Writer&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;st1:date year="2007" day="31" month="3"&gt;Saturday, March 31,  2007&lt;/st1:date&gt; &lt;st1:time minute="47" hour="23"&gt;11:47 PM EDT&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;st1:time minute="47" hour="23"&gt;&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;A Canadian man has been calling &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Somerset&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placetype&gt;County&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; residents and, without their knowledge, recording the phone conversations he has with them about Flight 93 and Sept. 11.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Jeff Hill of Saulte Sainte Marie, Ontario, then posts the conversations on a Web site dedicated to debunking conventional beliefs about the events of Sept. 11.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;During a telephone interview Wednesday, Hill confirmed he had called four county residents and recorded their conversations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“It's not right at all,” said Paula Purbaugh of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Somerset&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, one of the people Hill contacted and recorded.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;In &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pennsylvania&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;, it is a felony offense to record telephone conversations without the consent of all parties that are involved in the conversation, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. The nonprofit organization provides free legal assistance to journalists.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But because Hill lives in &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Canada&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, it is unclear if he broke the law, Dalglish said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“If he were to come to the state of &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pennsylvania&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;, they could probably try to get him,” she said. “I'm not sure that legally there's much that can be done to him, at least not done easily.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Hill defended his actions, saying the National Security Agency is recording the telephone conversations of everyone in &lt;st1:place&gt;North  America&lt;/st1:place&gt;. His recordings are no different, he said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Pressed further, he admitted that making the recordings was unfair to the people he had called.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“No, it's not fair I did that, but I want to get to the truth,” Hill said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Locally, the Web postings of the recordings were found by Val McClatchey of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;st1:place style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Indian&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Lake&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;, who shot the now famous photo of a plume of smoke rising behind a red barn after Flight 93 crashed into the ground&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;. McClatchey titled the photo “End of Serenity,” copyrighted it and began selling copies of it for $20, with most of the proceeds being donated to The Todd Beamer Foundation or the Flight 93 Memorial. She has used some of the proceeds to cover mailing costs, she said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;But starting about two years ago, &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;claims arose that McClatchey had faked the photo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Skeptics of her shot said, among other claims, that the smoke should be black instead of gray and resembled an ordinance blast more than a jet fuel blaze.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Soon, bloggers began attacking her online, accusing her of being a fraud and developing elaborate theories about her background&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;. To keep track of what was being written about her, she set up an account with Google Alerts; the Internet search engine sends her an e-mail anytime her name is posted on a Web site. She receives about four or five notifications from Google every day she said. Through everything, she has maintained the authenticity of her photograph.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Hill called McClatchey at her real estate office on Jan. 26 and told her he'd like to order a copy of the photo. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;He then began questioning her about the photo, gradually asking more aggressive questions about the photo's legitimacy. But throughout the conversation, McClatchey said Hill was very nice.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;The next day, Google notified McClatchey that the conversation she'd had with Hill had been posted online.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; But McClatchey took no action until last Tuesday, when Hill began calling other &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Somerset&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placetype&gt;County&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; residents. At that time, she received e-mail notifications that he had recorded phone calls with three other area residents and posted their conversations online. In the conversations, Hill tries to get people to say McClatchey's photo is fake.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;McClatchey went to state Rep. Bob Bastian's office to see what he could do to help. She said Bastian suggested she talk to the newspaper.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; Bastian did not return a phone call seeking comment.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“This is more or less to let people know they're being recorded illegally,” McClatchey said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Hill said he called people whose names he found in media reports about Flight 93.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;He said he first became interested in Sept. 11 theories when he accidentally stumbled across a Web site that claimed Building 7 of the World Trade Center fell too quickly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Soon he became obsessed with discovering what he describes as “the turth” about Sept. 11. He said he was put on sick leave from his job at Dell Computers, where he took phone calls for technical assistance.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“Maybe they were afraid I'd start talking to the customers,” he said, which Hill said he never did.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Hill said he was sent to a doctor for psychological help. Doctors said he was “uptight” and “paranoid,” and they prescribed him “happy pills,” which he never took. He said he doesn't know what it would take to get his job back and at present he is in the process of being put on disability.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Rob Gebhart can be reached at robg©dailyamerican.com.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/03/31/news/sunday/news03.txt" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2007/03/31/news/sunday/news03.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-321980977902321795?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/321980977902321795/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=321980977902321795&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/321980977902321795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/321980977902321795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/blogger-recording-phone-calls-to-sept.html' title='&quot;Blogger recording phone calls to Sept. 11 witnesses&quot; - Daily American'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-4166379614596967983</id><published>2007-03-27T18:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-08T10:44:51.078-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kelly_Leverknight'/><title type='text'>Shanksville resident says Val McClatchey's photo is fake!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-fb240dceeeccc60" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v10.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D0fb240dceeeccc60%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D29911CD5007C9BF70F370B87F2BB88118F9BFE9B.2B1448768DE4C7DB0E047A5E81E68A59A830951C%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dfb240dceeeccc60%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3D_ORA1P6LVKSeH13LP-6XfD6IA2o&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v10.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D0fb240dceeeccc60%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330203378%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D29911CD5007C9BF70F370B87F2BB88118F9BFE9B.2B1448768DE4C7DB0E047A5E81E68A59A830951C%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dfb240dceeeccc60%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3D_ORA1P6LVKSeH13LP-6XfD6IA2o&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Jeffrey Hill (a.k.a. "Shure") from &lt;a href="http://www.pumpitout.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Pumpitout.com&lt;/a&gt; in Canada &lt;a href="http://www.shure.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=shankswit&amp;amp;action=display&amp;amp;thread=1176749190"&gt;calls&lt;/a&gt; Shanksville resident &lt;a href="http://www.sptimes.com/News/091201/Worldandnation/A_blur_in_the_sky__th.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Kelly Leverknight&lt;/a&gt;, who was one of the witnesses who reportedly saw Flight 93 in the air before it allegedly crashed, and speaks to a lady claiming to be Kelly’s daughter*.  Jeff asks this lady on the phone about Val’s Flight 93 plume photo.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: verdana; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;Jeff:  Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: &lt;span style="color: black; font-weight: bold;"&gt; It was a fake photo&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;because &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;it didn't have a mushroom cloud&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;Jeff:  It what?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight:  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;There was no mushroom cloud.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jeff:  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So it was a fake photo?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;Ms. Leverknight&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yeah&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Jeff:  Her photo's faked?&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Yeah.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jeff:  For what?  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;For money?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yeah.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jeff:  Why, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;do you know that for sure?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ms. Leverknight: &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yeah!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/leverknight_032707.mp3" target="_blank"&gt;Entire phone call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/leverknight_032707.mp3" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/leverknight_032707.mp3" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This admission from Ms. Leverknight is pertinent for three reasons:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;1.&lt;/span&gt; She confirms one of my two theories about Val's photo; that it's fake.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2.&lt;/span&gt; Before this admission, I had never speculated that Val took any photos on 9/11.  Ms. Leverknight implies that Val did indeed take at least one photo on 9/11, but that this original photo &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;did not&lt;/span&gt; have a mushroom cloud in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;3.&lt;/span&gt; I've never had any contact with any of the Leverknight's, ever, so I have no reason to believe that Ms. Leverknight is not being honest and sincere about this admission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/leverknight_032707.mp3" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(*The lady on the phone suspected to be Kelly.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" face="verdana" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Update 09/22/08:  YouTube &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2008/09/two-flight-93-plume-videos-pulled-by.html"&gt;pulls video&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Alt link at &lt;a href="http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/E4E2067E7DD541559FF8DAF4269155B1/576508/shanksville-local-says-flight.aspx"&gt;LiveVideo&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-4166379614596967983?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/4166379614596967983/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=4166379614596967983&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4166379614596967983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/4166379614596967983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/shanksville-resident-says-val.html' title='Shanksville resident says Val McClatchey&apos;s photo is fake!'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-7008434702443019690</id><published>2007-03-09T16:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-12T17:05:15.209-08:00</updated><title type='text'>AP's Motion For Summary Judgment Denied</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;VALENCIA M. MCCLATCHEY,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Plaintiff,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;v. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;THE ASSOCIATED PRESS,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Defendant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;3:05-cv-145&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;(Johnstown) '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before the Court for consideration is a MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT (Document No. 18) filed by Defendant, The Associated Press (“AP”). Plaintiff has filed a response, AP has filed a reply, and the motion is now ripe for disposition. After reviewing the record evidence and the authorities cited by the parties, the Court concludes that the motion will be denied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thelen.com/tlu/McClatcheyVAP.pdf"&gt;http://www.thelen.com/tlu/McClatcheyVAP.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thelen.com/tlu/McClatcheyVAP.pdf"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-7008434702443019690?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/7008434702443019690/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=7008434702443019690&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7008434702443019690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7008434702443019690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/aps-motion-for-summary-judgment-denied.html' title='AP&apos;s Motion For Summary Judgment Denied'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-7012815567927169384</id><published>2007-03-05T00:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-03-05T00:20:12.466-08:00</updated><title type='text'>McClatchey entry now at CooperativeResearch.org</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a1006mcclatcheyphoto#a1006mcclatcheyphoto"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;(10:06 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Local Resident Captures ‘One-of-a-Kind’ Photo of Flight 93 Crash Explosion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A local resident is able to take the only photo showing the Flight 93 crash in the seconds after the plane went down. Val McClatchey lives just over a mile away from the crash site. [Wall Street Journal, 9/12/2006] She is at home watching television when she hears the surge of a plane engine, sees a silver flash outside, and then hears a loud boom that causes her house to shake. Luckily she has her new digital camera ready by her door. She was planning to photograph a friend who had promised to fly over in a helicopter on this day. [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 6/29/2003; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 8/6/2006; Tribune-Democrat (Johnstown), 9/9/2006] She grabs it and from her front porch manages to take a picture of the smoke cloud rising into the sky, “approximately five seconds after impact,” she says. [Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 9/11/2002; Windsor Park Stories, 3/23/2003] Her photo will appear in numerous newspapers and magazines. According to the FBI, it is the only known image taken within seconds of the crash. Considering the sparsely populated area in which Flight 93 went down, Pittsburgh FBI agent Jeff Killeen calls it “one-of-a-kind.” [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 8/6/2006; Tribune-Democrat (Johnstown), 9/9/2006; Wall Street Journal, 9/12/2006]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Entity Tags: &lt;a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=val_mcclatchey_1"&gt;Val McClatchey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Timeline Tags: &lt;a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline"&gt;Complete 911 Timeline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-7012815567927169384?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/7012815567927169384/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=7012815567927169384&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7012815567927169384'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/7012815567927169384'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/mcclatchey-entry-now-at.html' title='McClatchey entry now at CooperativeResearch.org'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-5322408129140323942</id><published>2007-02-22T19:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-06-29T11:41:06.972-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More Evidence - Flight 93 Photo Fraud</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(Originally posted &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread268934/pg1"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; by 'nick7261' on 22-2-2007.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I just did a couple of quick graphics showing the scale of the Flight 93 "smoke plume" in relation to the size of the WTCs.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val McClatchey claims to have taken this photo within seconds of the crash of Flight 93 iin Pennsylvania.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fH1j6AJnMXo/TVX3ACTnw9I/AAAAAAAABnM/MbUshYrsoNs/s1600/EndofSerenity-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fH1j6AJnMXo/TVX3ACTnw9I/AAAAAAAABnM/MbUshYrsoNs/s1600/EndofSerenity-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Killtown originally did an analysis of the size of  the smoke plume, which I confirmed.  If the smoke plume was at the crash  site, it would be 2200 feet wide (give or take!).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jskHPi8jPdU/TVX3PSiQtQI/AAAAAAAABnQ/hfxynZGHd3Q/s1600/McClatcheyPhotoFullView.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="225" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jskHPi8jPdU/TVX3PSiQtQI/AAAAAAAABnQ/hfxynZGHd3Q/s320/McClatcheyPhotoFullView.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here's what the WTCs would look like if they were under the plume in the McCLatchey photo, drawn to scale:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HtGNRyirbtg/TVX3bPEnG0I/AAAAAAAABnU/7e2z68xMjvw/s1600/SerenityandWTCs.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="246" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HtGNRyirbtg/TVX3bPEnG0I/AAAAAAAABnU/7e2z68xMjvw/s320/SerenityandWTCs.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here's what the McClatchey plume would look like if it were over NYC.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Notice how small the explosion in WTC2 is compared to the size of the smoke plume from the McClatchey photo.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Q: How could the crash of Flight 93 have created a smoke plume so large??? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A:  It couldn't!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QlIuwwapGoE/TVX3n3AoADI/AAAAAAAABnY/v21FOGZcwZQ/s1600/WTCsandSerenity.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="270" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QlIuwwapGoE/TVX3n3AoADI/AAAAAAAABnY/v21FOGZcwZQ/s320/WTCsandSerenity.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;*Note: Officially Flight 175 supposedly crashed with &lt;b&gt;65% more fuel&lt;/b&gt; left than Flight 93 supposedly did &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(&lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/chart.html#crash_stats"&gt;9,100 gal vs. 5,500 gal&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; and most of Flight 93 (past the cockpit section on back) had &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;supposedly &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;buried deep into the ground so fast that "&lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2009/07/archive-of-reports-that-most-of-flight.html"&gt;it didn’t have a chance to burn&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: How could Flight 93 have created this big of a  smoke plume from the crash, and yet fail to burn the grass next to the  crater it supposedly left?? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A: It couldn't!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mlho0PbE5tM/TVX39jMp0mI/AAAAAAAABnc/NLIKJ00x248/s1600/93overhead.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="256" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mlho0PbE5tM/TVX39jMp0mI/AAAAAAAABnc/NLIKJ00x248/s320/93overhead.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;----------------------&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;*My addition to &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;nick7261&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'s post.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5322408129140323942?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5322408129140323942/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5322408129140323942&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5322408129140323942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5322408129140323942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-evidence-flight-93-photo-fraud.html' title='More Evidence - Flight 93 Photo Fraud'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fH1j6AJnMXo/TVX3ACTnw9I/AAAAAAAABnM/MbUshYrsoNs/s72-c/EndofSerenity-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-5022351435654416782</id><published>2007-02-11T20:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T16:26:38.762-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Val and the 'honor system'</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;There has been an ongoing debate as to whether Val is able to profit from the sales of her photo.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://911debunker.livejournal.com/8226.html" target="_blank"&gt;Conspiracy skeptics say&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; that Val is unable to profit&lt;/span&gt;, because they point out that the &lt;a href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html" target="_blank"&gt;website that advertises&lt;/a&gt; Val’s photo states that checks are to be made out to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Todd Beamer Foundation&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;It is also important to note that Val is not profiting from this photo&lt;/span&gt;. She has stated that she is now keeping some of the proceeds to deal with legal fees relating to a lawsuit with this picture, but if you go to her website to order a copy of her picture, you'll find this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;To order an 8.5 X 11 print of this photo, send a &lt;b style=""&gt;$20.00 check made payable to the Todd Beamer Foundation&lt;/b&gt; to the following address:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Last time I checked, her name was Val McClatchey, not "Todd Beamer Foundation". So she can't very well deposit these checks into her own account.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc6-s2J5k7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/gh6AwpWNCJk/s1600-h/911debunker-val.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc6-s2J5k7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/gh6AwpWNCJk/s320/911debunker-val.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030167511479980978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;However, if all the checks are made out to the charity, how does Val get &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/01/photo-benefits-crash-victims-penn.html" target="_blank"&gt;reimbursed $2 per print&lt;/a&gt; she keeps to cover for supplies and shipping and how is she able to keep some of the proceeds &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html" target="_blank"&gt;she admits keeping&lt;/a&gt; in order to help fight her lawsuit against the AP?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2002/01/photo-benefits-crash-victims-penn.html"&gt;I’ve pointed out before&lt;/a&gt; that in at least one occasion, a magazine that had advertised Val’s photo for sale &lt;i&gt;did not&lt;/i&gt; say to write checks out to the Beamer Foundation, but told people to make it out in Val’s name. I’ve also argued that it’s possible that people going to her work to buy a print might be able to pay cash for it.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;I have also wondered how many people who went to the website that advertises Val’s photo where it says to write checks out to the Beamer Foundation accidentally goofed and wrote their check out in Val’s name and still got a print, so to test out this theory, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I had someone “accidentally” write out a check in Val's name&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc7FNGJ5k-I/AAAAAAAAAGc/AlglmXQvSqo/s1600-h/check-20.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc7FNGJ5k-I/AAAAAAAAAGc/AlglmXQvSqo/s320/check-20.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030174662600528866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc68rGJ5k1I/AAAAAAAAAEs/UXlehLtN3iI/s1600-h/cleared-check-front.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc68rGJ5k1I/AAAAAAAAAEs/UXlehLtN3iI/s320/cleared-check-front.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030165282391954258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Front view of cashed checked.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc69C2J5k5I/AAAAAAAAAFM/pnN_m7ZiL0U/s1600-h/certified-mail.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc69C2J5k5I/AAAAAAAAAFM/pnN_m7ZiL0U/s200/certified-mail.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030165690413847442" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc7A12J5k9I/AAAAAAAAAGM/UbCEFhYU_QI/s1600-h/receipt.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc7A12J5k9I/AAAAAAAAAGM/UbCEFhYU_QI/s200/receipt.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030169865122059218" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc7A12J5k9I/AAAAAAAAAGM/UbCEFhYU_QI/s1600-h/receipt.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;...and &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/what-you-get-for-20.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is what they got:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc69aWJ5k6I/AAAAAAAAAFU/aXRgweFIXL4/s1600-h/eos-print.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc69aWJ5k6I/AAAAAAAAAFU/aXRgweFIXL4/s320/eos-print.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5030166094140773282" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Remember, it’s by the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt;honor system&lt;/a&gt; that Val forwards her proceeds. Let’s just hope Val is true to her word and forwards $18 from this check to the Beamer Foundation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5022351435654416782?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5022351435654416782/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5022351435654416782&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5022351435654416782'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5022351435654416782'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/val-and-honor-system.html' title='Val and the &apos;honor system&apos;'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc6-s2J5k7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/gh6AwpWNCJk/s72-c/911debunker-val.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-5328490946662876370</id><published>2007-02-10T14:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-15T22:40:19.150-08:00</updated><title type='text'>What you get for $20</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here is what you get when you send Val $20 for a print of her “&lt;a href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html" target="_blank"&gt;End of Serenity&lt;/a&gt;” photo:&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckPdt35boI/AAAAAAAAAAY/Xvk5YjuFQ_E/s1600-h/eos-print.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckPdt35boI/AAAAAAAAAAY/Xvk5YjuFQ_E/s320/eos-print.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028567462140538498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is an 8.5 x 11 print on Kodak photo paper*.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-style: italic;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-style: italic;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckTet35bxI/AAAAAAAAACA/wDvjVx5ZdAM/s1600-h/kodak-paper.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckTet35bxI/AAAAAAAAACA/wDvjVx5ZdAM/s320/kodak-paper.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028571877366918930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Back of print.  Kodak photo paper used.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckPv935bpI/AAAAAAAAAAg/ATtOOsdPVic/s1600-h/stamps.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckPv935bpI/AAAAAAAAAAg/ATtOOsdPVic/s320/stamps.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028567775673151122" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Three stamps used totally $1.17.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify; font-weight: bold;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Quality of the Print&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;The person who purchased this copy of her photo describes the blown up print as “horrible”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They said the print was blurry and there is all this ugly writing all over it:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckP_d35bqI/AAAAAAAAAAo/tNRWkeDXYZ4/s1600-h/eos-writing.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckP_d35bqI/AAAAAAAAAAo/tNRWkeDXYZ4/s320/eos-writing.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5028568041961123490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckQKt35brI/AAAAAAAAAAw/t6Xx5E0vz7o/s1600-h/end-of-serenity-c.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;I asked &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;was the print worth the $20&lt;/span&gt; and they responded with a big &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;“No!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;It’s also interesting to note that Val had mentioned that the reason &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;the FBI took her camera’s memory card&lt;/a&gt; back with them is because she said they saw debris flying out of the plume in her photo.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If you look at a close-up of the plume in her photo print, there seems to be a few dark spots on it, but nothing that looks like plane or paper debris flying out from it, but more like just blotches of ink.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(*Note that I was incorrect in previously speculating that the print out you get was printed out on regular computer paper which her interview on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;Windsor Park Stories showed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; a copy of her photo being printed out on regular computer paper.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-5328490946662876370?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/5328490946662876370/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=5328490946662876370&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5328490946662876370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/5328490946662876370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/what-you-get-for-20.html' title='What you get for $20'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RckPdt35boI/AAAAAAAAAAY/Xvk5YjuFQ_E/s72-c/eos-print.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-2787146911482119343</id><published>2007-02-07T12:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T16:26:37.355-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"9/11 Conspiracy Theory" - CW11 New York</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Watch clip &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtAMy8Zjmmg" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (@&lt;st1:time minute="0" hour="17"&gt;17:00&lt;/st1:time&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;CW11's Fact Finders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://cw11.trb.com/news/local/wpix-factfinderhome,0,6818266.htmlstory"&gt;9/11 Conspiracy Theory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;"Other skeptics raising questions claim this picture showing the smoke cloud after United Flight 93 crashed looks like and out-and-out fake.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;" - CW11&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;WPIX-TV&lt;/st1:City&gt;  &lt;st1:state&gt;New York&lt;/st1:State&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; (02/07/07) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcuNtmJ5kwI/AAAAAAAAAD0/N2oS-nfsu5w/s1600-h/cw11-plume.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcuNtmJ5kwI/AAAAAAAAAD0/N2oS-nfsu5w/s320/cw11-plume.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5029269223364989698" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:  &lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/6038" target="_blank"&gt;CW11 New York Airs Feature Story on 9/11 Skeptics&lt;/a&gt; – 911blogger.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-2787146911482119343?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/2787146911482119343/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=2787146911482119343&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2787146911482119343'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/2787146911482119343'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/911-conspiracy-theory-cw11-new-york.html' title='&quot;9/11 Conspiracy Theory&quot; - CW11 New York'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcuNtmJ5kwI/AAAAAAAAAD0/N2oS-nfsu5w/s72-c/cw11-plume.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-9042299310558370006</id><published>2007-02-04T00:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-07-20T15:51:19.607-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pumpitout.com calls Val McClatchey</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcWZF935bnI/AAAAAAAAAAM/dAzyfQadz5U/s1600-h/pumpitout-val.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcWZF935bnI/AAAAAAAAAAM/dAzyfQadz5U/s320/pumpitout-val.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5027592886816435826" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.shure.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=shankswitness&amp;action=display&amp;amp;thread=1182798719" target="_blank"&gt;Click Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Listen to it on video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed style="width: 400px; height: 326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3164942619703171098&amp;amp;hl=en" flashvars=""&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-9042299310558370006?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/9042299310558370006/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=9042299310558370006&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9042299310558370006'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/9042299310558370006'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/pumpitoutcom-calls-val-mcclatchey.html' title='Pumpitout.com calls Val McClatchey'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/RcWZF935bnI/AAAAAAAAAAM/dAzyfQadz5U/s72-c/pumpitout-val.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116780156690360917</id><published>2007-01-02T21:13:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-10-20T14:48:51.195-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ambassadors'/><title type='text'>93 Ambassador says Val's photo taken 'within seconds' of impact</title><content type='html'>&lt;embed src="http://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.com/flvplayer.swf" flashvars="config=http://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.com/videoConfigXmlCode.php?pg=video_993_no_0" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" name="flvplayer" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" allowfullscreen="true" align="middle" height="345" width="420"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ambassador:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;This cloud picture was taken&lt;/span&gt; from a mile away &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;within seconds&lt;/span&gt; of the crash&lt;/span&gt;. The &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;FBI says that had to be within a couple seconds&lt;/span&gt; because the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;wind immediately moved the cloud east&lt;/span&gt; toward Bedford and all this debris kept falling out it as it went, so they had to send people tracking it -- climbing on rooftops and treetops, through fields...”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html" target="_blank"&gt;Val suggested in an interview&lt;/a&gt; of her that the FBI timed her photo out to have been taken “approx. 5 seconds” after impact:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"timed it out -- &lt;b style=""&gt;it was approximately 5 seconds after impact&lt;/b&gt; that I snapped the photo."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;And the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/local-ambassadors-tend-to-flight-93.html"&gt;FBI is confirming the time&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“&lt;b style=""&gt;The FBI says&lt;/b&gt; it is the only &lt;b style=""&gt;known image taken within seconds&lt;/b&gt; of the crash.” – Post-Gazette (&lt;st1:date year="2006" day="12" month="9"&gt;09/12/06&lt;/st1:date&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Val also mentioned in her interview that the FBI said they saw debris coming out of the smoke plume in her photo and that’s why they wanted to take her camera’s memory card back with them:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Well &lt;b style=""&gt;the FBI, when they came in&lt;/b&gt;, they looked at it on my computer which is a lot clearer. &lt;b style=""&gt;They could actually see what they appear to be debris flying out from that cloud of smoke&lt;/b&gt; which I'm sure with modern technology they could do a little more scientific evidence I believe&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…apparently the FBI thought it was worthwhile; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;they took the original memory card&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;One thing to note about the alleged time Val took this photo, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Val claimed she almost got knocked off her couch from the force of the impact about 1.5 miles from her house&lt;/span&gt; and then she immediately jumped up and ran out of her house grabbing her camera that she said she had ready at the door for &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2003/06/little-romance-muscles-its-way-into.html"&gt;her friends alleged helicopter flyover that morning&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Since she is about 1.5 miles from the crater, the shockwave from an explosion at that distance would have taken &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html"&gt;about 8 seconds to reach her house&lt;/a&gt;, so it would have been impossible for her to have taken her photo 5 seconds after impact.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The minimum time she could have taken this photo would be about 13 seconds after impact&lt;/span&gt; and remember that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the plume in her photo is 250+ yards south of the crater and it would have taken about 50 seconds to travel that distance&lt;/span&gt; in a 9 knot wind!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;*The memorial Ambassadors are reciting the official story to visitors:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;Local 'ambassadors' tend to Flight 93 site&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The ambassadors say they try not to speculate too much. During a training process led by Ms. Glessner, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-size:85%;" &gt;ambassadors agree to stick to the official 9/11 Commission Report&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; or to say, "We don't know." – &lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" target="_blank"&gt;Post-Gazette&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;st1:date year="2006" day="12" month="9"&gt;09/12/06&lt;/st1:date&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Today &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;Ambassadors&lt;/span&gt; are at the temporary memorial every day of the year and have welcomed over one million visitors from all over the world. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;They have participated in rigorous educational training to become familiar with details of Flight 93&lt;/span&gt; and the passengers and crewmembers to inform visitors about what happened here on 9/11." - &lt;a href="http://www.honorflight93.org/memorial/memorial-today/?fa=ambassadors"&gt;HonorFlight93.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Video taken at the Flight 93 Memorial by 9/11 researcher &lt;a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;amp;videoID=1566143660" target="_blank"&gt;Gideon524&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116780156690360917?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116780156690360917/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116780156690360917&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116780156690360917'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116780156690360917'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/01/93-ambassador-says-vals-photo-taken.html' title='93 Ambassador says Val&apos;s photo taken &apos;within seconds&apos; of impact'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116693538936604726</id><published>2006-12-23T20:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-12-26T21:07:00.730-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The band '27' winner of plume photoshop contest</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Update:&lt;/span&gt;  Just got word from '27' that the plume in their album is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; a photoshop, but an actual painting of Val's plume by artist &lt;a href="http://www.solomonfineartinc.com/artists/killian.html" target="_blank"&gt;Brendan Killian&lt;/a&gt;.  Even so, I still like it and it still wins the Flight 93 plume photoshop contest!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Boston&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; band ‘&lt;a href="http://www.kimcheerecords.com/bands/27/" target="_blank"&gt;27&lt;/a&gt;’ is the winner of my Flight 93 plume photoshop submission contest with their album cover for their bonus album “&lt;a href="http://www.garment-district.com/store/music/27/buy.html" target="_blank"&gt;Animal Life&lt;/a&gt;”, released in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.de/Animal-Life-27/dp/B0000C24HD/sr=1-20/qid=1166932961/ref=sr_1_20/028-4985211-4901316?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music" target="_blank"&gt;Sept. ‘05&lt;/a&gt;, about a year before &lt;a href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004" target="_blank"&gt;I asked&lt;/a&gt; for photoshop submissions, but what the &lt;i style=""&gt;hay&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/158489/27-animal-life1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/781264/27-animal-life1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/551959/27-compare-plume.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/299893/27-compare-plume.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;27's &lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/twenty27seven"&gt;myspace&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Runner up is 'Melle Belle':&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/769810/melle-belle1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/920759/melle-belle1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See all submissions:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/11/photoshop-submissions-from-infowars.html" target="_blank"&gt;Photoshop submissions from InfoWars forum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/phun-with-photoshopping.html" target="_top"&gt;Phun with Photoshopping&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116693538936604726?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116693538936604726/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116693538936604726&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116693538936604726'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116693538936604726'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/12/band-27-winner-of-plume-photoshop.html' title='The band &apos;27&apos; winner of plume photoshop contest'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116493567607985642</id><published>2006-11-30T17:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-12-01T11:52:01.190-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Photoshop submissions from InfoWars forum</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;From &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=967" target="_blank"&gt;InfoWars forum&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/327020/AudioWhore1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/986689/AudioWhore1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;By &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5825#5825" target="_blank"&gt;AudioWhore&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/323621/AudioWhore2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/42191/AudioWhore2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;By &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5922#5922" target="_blank"&gt;AudioWhore&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/645704/josephhall1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/473515/josephhall1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;“&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Val's gotta have faitha-faitha faithaa ... go george @ shanksville&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5941#5941" target="_blank"&gt;joseph hall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/538385/AboriginalAustralia1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/751355/AboriginalAustralia1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;“Nana Gin is out from Redfern to &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pennsylvania&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;.. she tell them dawgs to bee'ave”&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=5949#5949" target="_blank"&gt;Aboriginal Australia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/409185/josephhall2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/316216/josephhall2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Sorry, but this one just &lt;b&gt;had&lt;/b&gt; to be done.&lt;/span&gt;” - &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=6030#6030" target="_blank"&gt;joseph hall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=6030#6030" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/753114/AudioWhore3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/942115/AudioWhore3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;By &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=6091#6091" target="_blank"&gt;AudioWhore&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/522561/websuspect1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/830675/websuspect1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;By &lt;a href="http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=6123#6123" target="_blank"&gt;websuspect&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/phun-with-photoshopping.html" target="_blank"&gt;Phun with Photoshopping&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116493567607985642?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116493567607985642/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116493567607985642&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116493567607985642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116493567607985642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/11/photoshop-submissions-from-infowars.html' title='Photoshop submissions from InfoWars forum'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116261408565966294</id><published>2006-11-04T20:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-03T20:35:03.136-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Video of a real plane crash smoke plume</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Here is a smoke plume from the crash of a large commercial jetliner (&lt;a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010704-0" target="_blank"&gt;Tupolev 154&lt;/a&gt;*):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KOreA5Q45JU"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KOreA5Q45JU" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is how dissipated the plume is about 30 sec after it formed:&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/ukraine-crash.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/ukraine-crash.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Compare that to the "Flight 93 plume" that had to travel about &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html" target="_blank"&gt;250yd in 50 sec&lt;/a&gt; from the reported 9 knot wind to line up with this shot:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/mcclatchey_photo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/mcclatchey_photo.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;*Not 100% sure this link is of the same crash as the video.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Regardless, look at the &lt;a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010704-0" target="_blank"&gt;size and amount of debris&lt;/a&gt; it left after it crashed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116261408565966294?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116261408565966294/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116261408565966294&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116261408565966294'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116261408565966294'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/11/video-of-real-plane-crash-smoke-plume.html' title='Video of a real plane crash smoke plume'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116027058180851448</id><published>2006-10-07T19:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-01T10:41:28.163-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Val McClatchey's camera identified, contained editing software</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In a recent article about this Flight 93 photo fraud controversy from the &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/photo-under-fire-tribune-democrat.html" target="_blank"&gt; Tribune-Democrat&lt;/a&gt;, they included a new photo showing Val clutching the digital  camera that it is assumed to be the one she used to take her "End of Serenity" photo with:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-mcclatchey-td.1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/val-mcclatchey-td.1.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The camera she is clutching &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread220925/pg3#pid2495105" target="_blank"&gt; has been identified&lt;/a&gt; as a Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 315:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/hp315-front-back.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/hp315-front-back.0.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/hp315-front-back.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-cam-cu.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/val-cam-cu.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This digital camera comes in two versions, HP315 and HP315xi, and had a &lt;a href="http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS315/P31A.HTM" target="_blank"&gt; MSRP of $299&lt;/a&gt;.   The "xi" version seems to be the exact same  camera, but includes extra editing software (at this time it is unknown which  version Val has):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;a href="http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?cc=us&amp;amp;docname=bpy00301&amp;amp;lc=en&amp;amp;jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?cc=us&amp;amp;docname=bpy00301&amp;amp;lc=en&amp;amp;jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN" target="_blank"&gt; Product / Model number&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;HP Photosmart 315 digital camera / C8452A&lt;br /&gt;HP Photosmart 315xi digital camera / C8455A&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Product description&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The simple-to-use HP Photosmart 315 series digital camera takes high-quality  photos you can share with family and friends on the Internet or via e-mail. &lt;b&gt; It comes with HP software for &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;manipulating&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, storing, and printing &lt;b&gt;photos&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Specifications&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Sensor - &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2.1 MegaPixel&lt;/span&gt;, 1/2.7 inch (15 mm) CCD&lt;br /&gt;Color depth - 30-bit (10 bits x 3 colors)&lt;br /&gt;Resolution - 2.1 MP (1600 x 1200)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Zoom - 1.5x, 2x, 2.5x variable digital zoom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Date and time stamp - Not available&lt;br /&gt;Interfaces - USB to PC or Mac; Standard tripod mount&lt;br /&gt;Minimum system requirements PC:&lt;br /&gt;* Windows 98, Me, NT 4.0* or Windows 2000 Professional&lt;br /&gt;* 166 MHz Pentium(R) processor or equivalent&lt;br /&gt;* 32 MB RAM*&lt;br /&gt;* 150 MB free disk space - 800 x 600, 16-bit color display&lt;br /&gt;* CD-ROM drive&lt;br /&gt;* USB interface - Sound card and speakers recommended&lt;br /&gt;* NT 4.0 requires 64 MB RAM and does not support USB. Compact Flash card reader  required instead. (Card reader must be purchased separately.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Software&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;HP Photo Imaging software&lt;/span&gt; (PC only)&lt;br /&gt;Arcsoft PhotoImpression 2000&lt;br /&gt;Arcsoft PhotoMontage 2000 (315 and 315xi only)&lt;br /&gt;Adobe(R) PhotoDeluxe Business Edition 1.1 (PC 315xi version only)&lt;br /&gt;Adobe PhotoDeluxe 2.0 (Mac 315xi version only)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;There are three interesting things about this camera:  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;(1) it does not have an  optical zoom&lt;/span&gt; -- only digital zoom; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;(2) it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;did&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; contain editing software&lt;/span&gt; in which &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;a  Post-Gazette article said that Val &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;did not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; have access to any editing software&lt;/span&gt;  on 9/11:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Mrs. McClatchey acknowledged that a lot of people are alleging she fabricated  the photo, but she stands by its authenticity. Days after Sept. 11, neighbors  saw the image, still in her camera. The camera and computer were new, and &lt;b&gt; &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt;she  didn't have access to Photoshop&lt;/a&gt; or any other photo-altering software&lt;/b&gt;." - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (08/06/06)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Let me make it clear that I'm not saying Val lied about not having photo  editing software.  I am just bringing up the fact that her camera &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt;  come with editing software.  Also, I do not know at this time if the  editing software that came  with her camera could be used to photoshop a smoke plume on her photo and I do  not know if Val, or her husband have photoshopping skills.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Also remember that &lt;b&gt;Val said her and her husband were in &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt; severe financial trouble right before 9/11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, yet she buys this camera  that had a MSRP of $300 a month before the attacks along with a new computer.   It is not known at this time how much she paid for this camera, or how much her  new computer cost, but most new computers back in 2001 were over a $1,000.   This seems like an expensive purchase for a them to have made during their  financial crisis. The purchase of her new camera and computer right before 9/11  could have been for her new career in real estate, but as for as I can tell, she  did not start taking real estate classes until sometime after Christmas:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"I’d had some health problems. Gall bladder surgery and during the testing for  all the gall bladder problems, they found a tumor on my kidney and lesions on my  liver, &lt;b&gt;so day after Christmas, I had my gall bladder out. Right after there &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt; I went right into taking real estate classes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; to start a new career to  help support my family." - Windsor Park Stories&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;(3)&lt;/span&gt;  It was mentioned that the reason Val only took one photo of this  smoke plume was because after snapping her shot, she dropped her camera and the  battery was jarred loose:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"I didn't even aim. I was just like, 'Oh, my God,' " she said. &lt;b&gt;She dropped  the camera, &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight.html"&gt; jolting the battery loose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, then tried in vain to call her husband, son  and daughter. - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (08/06/06)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;However, her camera does not have one battery as the article implies, but &lt;a href="http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS315/P31A11.HTM" target="_blank"&gt; four AA batteries&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/hp315-batteries.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/hp315-batteries.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&amp;amp;cc=us&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;dlc=en&amp;amp;product=59966&amp;amp;docname=bpy05000" target="_blank"&gt; HP Photosmart Digital Cameras - Product Comparison&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.epinions.com/elec-review-3520-4B7A8236-3A5B4720-prod3" target="_blank"&gt; Epinions review on HP 315&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS315/P31A.HTM" target="_blank"&gt; Imaging Resource review on HP 315&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS315/P31P.HTM" target="_blank"&gt;Printer  friendly&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&amp;amp;satitle=HP+315+PHOTOSMART" target="_blank"&gt;For sale on eBay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;(Update 08/31/11)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2011/08/road-from-911-shanksville-pa-serenity.html"&gt;StarTribune article&lt;/a&gt; confirms the camera was an HP 315: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;McClatchey is president of the Keystone Camaro Club, so she usually has her &lt;b&gt;Hewlett-Packard 315 point-and-shoot camera&lt;/b&gt; handy for car shows.&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116027058180851448?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116027058180851448/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116027058180851448&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116027058180851448'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116027058180851448'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/10/val-mcclatcheys-camera-identified.html' title='Val McClatchey&apos;s camera identified, contained editing software'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-116011389805857222</id><published>2006-10-04T22:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-10-05T22:51:38.070-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Blogs Shoot First, Ask Questions Later" - Photo District News</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003220381" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003220381" target="_blank"&gt;Blogs Shoot First, Ask Questions Later&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;October 04, 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:dlang@pdnonline.com"&gt;By Daryl Lang&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:dlang@pdnonline.com"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;In some ways, the blogosphere corrects itself, as bloggers try to one-up each other with new information. The popular technology blog Boing Boing, which questioned &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Wilson&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;’s microphone cable picture, removed the post later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hard-core conspiracy theorists, however, play by different rules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someone who is well aware of this is Val McClatchey, a real estate agent from &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pennsylvania&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:State&gt; who took the famous picture of a puff of smoke that rose after United Airlines Flight 93 crashed near her house on &lt;st1:date year="2001" day="11" month="9"&gt;Sept.  11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McClatchey has been smeared by people who think she is covering something up. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;One 9/11 skeptic examined McClatchey’s finances and family health history, speculating that she is motivated to lie for profit.&lt;/span&gt; Another posted an account of a confrontational visit to McClatchey’s office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Right now it’s become more of a curse than a blessing that I took it at all,” McClatchey recently told the &lt;i&gt;Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;/i&gt;. (McClatchey is also suing the Associated Press for distributing the photo without her permission; the AP denies this.) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;– Photo District News&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003220381"&gt;http://pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003220381&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003220381"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Notice that PDN does not link back to my blog so readers can get the whole story.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-116011389805857222?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/116011389805857222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=116011389805857222&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116011389805857222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/116011389805857222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/10/blogs-shoot-first-ask-questions-later.html' title='&quot;Blogs Shoot First, Ask Questions Later&quot; - Photo District News'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115921775445326841</id><published>2006-09-25T13:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T13:55:54.903-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Val on the attack; calls me a 'coward' on TV</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-mcclatchey-kdka2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/val-mcclatchey-kdka2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I just stumbled upon a TV video clip of Val McClatchey on &lt;a href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;KDKA channel 2&lt;/a&gt; (CBS affiliate in &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pittsburgh&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;) which was posted on their site back on the 10th.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the video clip and printed article, Val blasts me for my allegations that her photo &lt;i style=""&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; be a fake and calls me a “coward” for not setting foot in her town and make my claims:&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;      &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;Small Town Under Microscope Since 9/11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;st1:date year="2006" day="10" month="9"&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;st1:date year="2006" day="10" month="9"&gt;Sep 10, 2006&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;McClatchey, who titled her picture “End of Serenity”, is getting a taste of the worst.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I’d like to see him - &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;the coward that he is&lt;/span&gt; - set foot out here and lay claim to that&lt;/span&gt;,” McClatchey said.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Recently a blog website has claimed McClatchey’s photo is a fraud.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;“It makes me really mad, and that’s putting it politely in a very professional way - it makes my blood curl,” McClatchey said. “&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The simple fact is that they don’t even have their facts straight&lt;/span&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;First of all, the news keeps getting my allegations wrong.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’m not claiming her photo is a fake, &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;I’m saying it &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;may&lt;/span&gt; be a fake&lt;/a&gt;, or it’s real but shows an explosion originating closer to her house.&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Second, Val says that I don’t have the “facts straight”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’m really curious what facts I don’t have straight that she’s referring too!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Third, what happened to all the investigating reporters?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why aren’t they questioning Val about her very odd story behind the photo?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;She has motive and opportunity to be in on faking her photo (if it is indeed fake) and the FBI has their fingerprints all over it too.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Also, why haven’t any of these news and TV companies have their photo and graphic arts experts analyze her photo to prove any of my allegations wrong?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are they “cowards”?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;At least I’m glad the media is at least keeping the story alive even if they don’t have my allegations quite correct and are not questioning Val or her husband about her story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Article archived &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/small-town-under-microscope-since-911.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115921775445326841?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115921775445326841/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115921775445326841&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115921775445326841'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115921775445326841'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/val-on-attack-calls-me-coward-on-tv.html' title='Val on the attack; calls me a &apos;coward&apos; on TV'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115865359521420771</id><published>2006-09-19T01:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T14:47:51.683-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Italian debunking blog gets plume photo claims wrong</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;An Italian 9/11 debunking blog &lt;a href="http://undicisettembre.blogspot.com/2006/09/volo-93-la-nube-di-fumo-prova-di.html" target="_blank"&gt;undicisettembre&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://paoloattivissimo.info/11settembre/shanks-nube/endofserenity-e.htm" target="_blank"&gt;English version&lt;/a&gt;) tries to debunk the notion that the plume on Val McClatchey’s “End of Serenity” photo can only come from a bomb blast. They say that conspiracists, such as I, claim &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“plane crashes don't make plumes like that, bombs do”&lt;/span&gt; and that we also say the plume in Val’s photo "proves conclusively" that Flight 93 did not crash there.  They even specifically quote me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"It proves that this blast is more likely an ordnance plume"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Killtown, in &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;his/her site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(It’s “his” btw ;-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;They then go on to show an interesting photo of a &lt;a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/08/14/Navigation/177/208416/Air+Alg%C3%A9rie+Hercules+transport+crashes+in+Northern+Italy,+narrowly+avoiding+population.html"&gt;L-100-30 Hercules&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/08/14/Navigation/177/208416/Air+Alg%C3%A9rie+Hercules+transport+crashes+in+Northern+Italy,+narrowly+avoiding+population.html" target="_blank"&gt; plane crash in Italy&lt;/a&gt;* that crashed after making a &lt;a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20060813-0&amp;amp;lang=en" target="_blank"&gt;long high speed decent&lt;/a&gt; and makes a very similar looking plume as the one in Val’s photo (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;although it is not known at this time how much fuel was aboard this L-100-30 when it crashed&lt;/span&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/c130-crash-eos.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/c130-crash-eos.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;L-100-30 Hercules crash left.  Val’s photo right.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;They conclude by saying:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-style: italic; text-align: justify;"&gt;“anyone who claims that a cloud with that shape can only come from an ordnance blast is making a false claim and any theories based on such a premise are flawed.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well after seeing that photo, I would &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;have to agree&lt;/span&gt; with their conclusion, however there is one slight problem with this Italian blogger’s debunk attempt, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;they are debunking the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;wrong claims&lt;/i&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;of mine!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;First, I’ve &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; claimed and I’m &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; claiming that plane crashes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; make plumes like the one seen in Val’s photo (&lt;i&gt;I would argue it's still rare though!&lt;/i&gt;).  Second, about them saying that I claim that Val’s photo proves Flight 93 didn’t crash there, this was something I &lt;i&gt;used&lt;/i&gt; to think before Rumple4skn and I found out the &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; evidence about Val’s plume photo that shows &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/plume-analysis.html" target="_blank"&gt;her plume couldn’t have originated&lt;/a&gt; where Flight 93 allegedly crashed, so believing her photo proves the plane didn't crash there is now a moot point. They obviously didn’t read my current claims very well on my blogpost that they linked too!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So why I said Val's plume “more likely” (&lt;i&gt;apparently they missed this part in the sentence of mine they quoted&lt;/i&gt;) came from and ordnance blast is because:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;(1) Val’s plume doesn’t line up with her camera direction and would have looked more dissipated than it does from having to been blown the approx. 250yds in approx. 50 sec needed to have lined up in her camera direction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;(2) Her plume would have been approx. 7 football fields (or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/plume-heinz-stadium.jpg" style="color: #990000;" target="_blank"&gt;3 Heinz football stadiums&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;!) wide if it had originated from the crash spot which would have been impossible for a plane with only 5,500 gals of fuel on board to have made since we are told it burrowed underground and crash scene photos show none of the grass around the crater was scorched by fire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So why didn’t they try to debunk these &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;current&lt;/span&gt; claims of mine about Val’s photo (&lt;i&gt;aside from her photo might being a fake&lt;/i&gt;)?  My guess is they &lt;i&gt;couldn’t&lt;/i&gt;, so they tried to confuse this issue at hand (&lt;i&gt;or maybe they just can’t read English that well!&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One thing I will change concerning Val’s plume that I’m sure this Italian blog will be happy to hear is that I’ll try not to suggest her plume more likely came from an ordnance blast than from a plane crash as much, but not because they showed a plane crash plume that looks like an ordnance plume, but because since Rumple4skn and I conclude that Val’s plume could not have originated anywhere near the crash site, it really doesn’t matter at all what created the plume in her photo since it didn't come from Flight 93 crashing at the alleged site!  I’ll simply refer to her plume as coming from an explosion originating from a different location.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Btw, the crash this Italian blogger brought up is interesting in another aspect.  It was also a high speed descent crash like Flight 93 allegedly was, however &lt;b&gt;this one didn't bury at all &lt;/b&gt;and &lt;b&gt;left &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; noticeable debris behind&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i6RNWO8YtQg/TVsRR-JphhI/AAAAAAAABnk/lDDF5d9O5Bo/s1600/Algerie_L100_im3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="182" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i6RNWO8YtQg/TVsRR-JphhI/AAAAAAAABnk/lDDF5d9O5Bo/s320/Algerie_L100_im3.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.1001crash.com/index-page-description-accident-Algerie_L100-lg-1-crash-135.html"&gt;Photo source&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/aa-c130-crash1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/aa-c130-crash1.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://www.elkhabar.com/FrEn/lire.php?ida=40446&amp;amp;idc=52" target="_blank"&gt;Photo source&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/aa-c130-crash2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/aa-c130-crash2.jpg" style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://www.elwatan.com/spip.php?page=article&amp;amp;id_article=48441" target="_blank"&gt;Photo source&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Grazie Italian debunking blog, grazie!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;(*Correction:  plane crash in &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Italy&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; was a Lockheed L-100-30 Hercules, not a C-130 as first stated.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115865359521420771?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115865359521420771/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115865359521420771&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115865359521420771'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115865359521420771'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/italian-debunking-blog-gets-plume.html' title='Italian debunking blog gets plume photo claims wrong'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i6RNWO8YtQg/TVsRR-JphhI/AAAAAAAABnk/lDDF5d9O5Bo/s72-c/Algerie_L100_im3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115826194703221385</id><published>2006-09-14T12:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T13:08:56.606-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Victor Thorn article</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://wingtv.net/thorn2006/killtownx.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://wingtv.net/thorn2006/killtownx.html" target="_blank"&gt;Killtown, Flight 93, &amp; Val McClatchey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;by Victor Thorn&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Over the past few years, a researcher named Killtown has been doing some intriguing work on 9-11, especially the anomalies surrounding Flight 93 and a woman named Val McClatchey.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;All those who have studied the Shanksville Hoax know that Ms. McClatchey was the woman who produced a photograph of the infamous smoke plume which supposedly arose from the wreckage of Flight 93.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Of course the lack of debris (i.e. wings, fuselage, engines, luggage, etc) and bodies – not to mention the 10-12 foot crater that Flight 93 purportedly “vaporized” inside – have justifiably caused many to question the government’s official version of events. [For more information, see &lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wingtv.net/flight93.html" target="_blank"&gt;Phantom Flight 93&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Another element of this perplexing puzzle which has come under increasing scrutiny is Val McClatchey herself. In a series of articles regarding this woman, Killtown has uncovered a number of inconsistencies in her story. To view them, please click on these links:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/"&gt;Flight 93 Plume Photo Analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;Val McClatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/flight-93-crash-smoke-plume-photo.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Flight 93 Crash Smoke Plume Photo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;In all, I feel Killtown best sums-up this scenario of Flight 93 NOT crashing-landing in an abandoned Shanksville landmine with the following quote: “If it really was an ordnance blast not too far beyond the white barn … then this would be a true smoking gun and one of the clearest examples of complicity in the 9-11 attacks by the U.S. government because what else could have caused such a large explosion and who else would have been behind it?”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;The question we all need to ask ourselves is: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;why are so many individuals in the 9-11 “truth movement” and alternative media ignoring this crucial information?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Many thanks to Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani of &lt;a href="http://wingtv.net/" target="_blank"&gt;WING TV&lt;/a&gt; for their continued support in helping to spread this photo fraud smoking gun find!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/flight-93-news-blackout.html"&gt;Flight 93 News Blackout&lt;/a&gt; by Victor Thorn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115826194703221385?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115826194703221385/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115826194703221385&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115826194703221385'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115826194703221385'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/victor-thorn-article.html' title='Victor Thorn article'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115813654613194356</id><published>2006-09-12T01:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T14:50:37.874-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ambassadors'/><title type='text'>"Local 'ambassadors' tend to Flight 93 site" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Article first printed in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/google_login.html?url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115794198345659159.html" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank"&gt;Wall Street Journal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; and reprinted at the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/living/15539118.htm?source=rss&amp;amp;channel=journalgazette_living" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank"&gt;Journal Gazette&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;. See my rebuttal to this article &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/near-shanksville-pa-local-ambassadors.html" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(emphasis mine)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2 style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h2 style="font-weight: normal; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" target="_blank"&gt; Local 'ambassadors' tend to Flight 93 site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify; text-indent: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;Tuesday, September 12, 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;By Jeffrey Zaslow, The Wall Street Journal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SHANKSVILLE -- On Sept. 11, 2001, United Airlines Flight 93 fell from the sky and crashed in a field three miles from Chuck Wagner's house.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Five years later, he says, his life priorities are now crystallized: "My  family, my church, Flight 93." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A 57-year-old heavy-equipment operator, Mr. Wagner is one of 42 volunteer "ambassadors" at the crash site. They are all local people who now see it as their duty to tell visitors about the heroics on that plane, when passengers fought back against terrorists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Mr. Wagner helps preserve the thousands of mementos left by visitors at the site's makeshift memorial. He maintains decorum; if tourists are giggling into cellphones, he asks them to take their calls elsewhere. When people cry, he has cried with them. "I've told the story thousands of times, but some things just grab my heart," he says. "I'll see a tear running down a woman's cheek, and it's hard for me to keep talking."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Like Mr. Wagner, many of the 2,500-or-so area residents here say Flight 93 forever changed how they view their role in the world. And their sense of purpose has profoundly touched the families of the passengers and crew members. The locals "watch over the area where the plane went down as if it were their own family cemetery," says Christine Fraser, whose sister, Colleen, was on the flight.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"From day one, they opened their arms, their hearts and their homes to all of us," says Larry Catuzzi, who lost his daughter, Lauren, on the plane.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For residents here, such praise makes them wonder: Is there something about their rural area -- populated largely by blue-collar, church-going families -- that makes them special, or would any community have risen to the occasion?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Locals say the past five years haven't been easy for them. Some ambassadors say their home lives have been tested, as they pay less attention to their children while giving long hours to Flight 93 projects. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Others have been targeted by bloggers and conspiracy theorists, who charge that they are somehow involved in nefarious cover-ups involving the flight.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At the crash site just outside of Shanksville, in the township of Stonycreek, a $58 million permanent memorial is slated to open in 2011. The 2,200-acre National Park Service project will have 40 groves of maple trees leading to what it calls the "Sacred Ground," where the plane fell. A tower with 40 wind chimes will mark entry to the site, which will include a museum. About $30 million of the cost is to come from nongovernment sources. About $7 million has been raised so far.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many Shanksville-area residents approve of the design, calling it a fitting tribute to the 40 passengers and crew, whose actions prevented terrorists from reaching their alleged target in Washington, D.C. Others fear the formal memorial won't offer the emotional tugs found at the "temporary" one, which overflows with handmade tributes, crosses, flags and photos.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The current memorial has a Mom-and-Pop quality to it. Mementos are placed on a 40-foot-long, 10-foot-high section of fencing erected on a gravel lot overlooking the filled-in, now grassy crash site, 500 yards away. Ambassadors bring their personal photo albums, showing snapshots they took in the aftermath of the crash. They share stories about how their homes shook when the plane hit, or how debris from the crash floated into their yards. In bad weather, ambassadors invite visitors to talk in a small former state-park guard shack.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Locals think of the memorial as "the people's place," says Donna Glessner, 48, who works at her family's building-supply store and organized the ambassadors. "We didn't make it. The world made it. We just take care of it."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;More than 130,000 people visit the site each year -- the ambassadors count them on hand-held clickers -- and all have questions. The ambassadors say they try not to speculate too much. During a training process led by Ms. Glessner, ambassadors agree to stick to the official 9/11 Commission Report or to say, "We don't know."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Dignitaries come and go here, usually on anniversaries. President Bush is due to visit Monday. But the ambassadors are on duty 365 days a year, from morning to sunset. They are scheduled in two-hour shifts. They have collected 30,000 mementos and notes left by visitors, all of which are stored and catalogued: poems, baby pacifiers, guitar picks, soldiers' boots. "We can understand the visitors' words," says Barbara Black, curator of the collection. "Their objects are harder to understand."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Some ambassadors say they appreciate all the crosses and religious tokens now at the site, and worry that the permanent memorial won't have references to faith. "If it is secularized and sanitized, I don't know if I will be involved," says Ed Klein, an ambassador. He believes symbols of faith "bring order out of the chaos that was that flight."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many say religious expressions belong here, because the crash site is a final resting place. Flight 93 took off from Newark, N.J., bound for San Francisco. There were 33 passengers, seven crew members and four hijackers, and given the impact of the crash -- the plane hit the ground at 580 miles an hour and debris was imbedded 45 feet deep -- more than 90 percent of human remains couldn't be recovered from the site, according to the county coroner.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Shanksville-area residents understand the impulse people have to come to the site. And they are getting used to outsiders. At first, they admit, they were nervous when hundreds of leather-clad motorcyclists would roar through town in search of the crash site. Ambassadors now say bikers are among the most reverent and patriotic visitors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: justify;"&gt;At the site, ambassadors show visitors a photo taken by local real-estate agent &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;Val McClatchey&lt;/span&gt;. She lives just over a mile from where the plane fell. At 10:03 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001, she was in her living room, watching TV coverage of the World Trade Center attacks. A loud boom shook her house. She grabbed a digital camera that was by her front door.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;The photo she took&lt;/span&gt; shows a mushroom cloud rising into a blue sky, with a neighbor's barn in the foreground. &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;The FBI says it is&lt;/span&gt; the only known image &lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;taken within seconds of the crash&lt;/span&gt;. Ms. McClatchey, 50, says, "If I knew how much chaos it would create in my life, I might have just deleted it."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: justify;"&gt;Accusations about her photo have spread across the Internet. Conspiracy theorists say the photo actually depicts a bomb blast, or that the cloud suggests the plane was shot down by the U.S. government.&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt; Others charge the photo is a phony&lt;/span&gt;. It is hard, she says, to see her name on the Internet alongside the words "total fraud."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: justify;"&gt;The ambassadors feel for Ms. McClatchey. If bloggers would come to Shanksville, "they could talk to a hundred people who saw that same cloud that day," Ms. Glessner says.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many ambassadors and other locals have formed lasting friendships with the victims' families. Shirley Hillegass, 68, lives three miles from the crash site. Six months after the plane fell, she attended a church service for victims and sat behind a woman who was weeping. Ms. Hillegass says she felt the woman's pain so deeply that "it was like I was in her body." The woman was Esther Heymann, stepmother of Honor Elizabeth Wainio, who died on Flight 93 at age 27.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ms. Hillegass also has lost a child. Her 32-year-old daughter, Annette, died  in a car accident during a 1994 snowstorm.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ms. Heymann, 57, lives in Catonsville, Md., and every couple of months, drives 180 miles to the crash site. Over time, the two mothers have grown close. They talk about their daughters: vivacious young career women who were alike in many ways. They also recognize the differences in their losses -- one so public, one little noticed beyond friends and loved ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ms. Hillegass last talked to her daughter, who lived out of town, a week before the car accident. It was an uneventful conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;By contrast, Ms. Heymann received a cellphone call from her stepdaughter before Flight 93 crashed. They decided that, to remain calm, they both would look at the beauty outside their windows. Ms. Heymann, safe in her home, looked into the sky above Maryland. Ms. Wainio gazed out of the plane at the sky above western Pennsylvania. Ms. Wainio expressed her love for each family member, then said she had to hang up because passengers were "breaking into the cockpit."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Lined up on the grounds of the Flight 93 memorial are 40 painted angels on sticks. The angel bearing Ms. Wainio's name has a photo of her looking radiant, wearing jeans and a short-sleeve white shirt. In the winter, that photo saddens her stepmother. "She's not dressed for snow, and I feel so impotent," Ms. Heymann says. "I wish I could keep her safe." Between Ms. Heymann's visits to the site, Ms. Hillegass checks up on the photo, or places flowers there.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Mr. Wagner, the heavy-equipment operator, is the ambassador in charge of maintenance at the site. He often emails Flight 93 families to let them know that tributes or photos have gotten sun-bleached or tattered and should be replaced. "I try to be their hands and eyes at the site," he says.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For seven days after Sept. 11, 2001, Mr. Wagner volunteered at the crash site, helping to gather plane parts, personal effects such as clothing and shoes, and human remains. "I asked God to direct me," he says. "If it was something I could handle, I wanted to be part of it." Some passengers' loved ones know that Mr. Wagner saw a lot that week. They don't ask him many questions, he says, "and I don't share much."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At the crash site, presentations have changed as information has become available. This spring, the transcript of Flight 93's cockpit voice recorder was made public, revealing the mayhem of the final 31 minutes. Ambassadors now bring photocopies of the transcript to the site each day. Many visitors stand there, solemnly reading every word.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ambassadors keep a log about each day's visitors. One entry describes a busload of blind people, who crawled along the ground, feeling the tributes left by other visitors. They also asked to touch the ambassador's face.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The ambassadors, who will remain on duty once the permanent memorial opens, say they have become better listeners since 2001. Many visitors want to tell them where they were on Sept. 11, and how they felt, and ambassadors see it as their job to listen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When Ms. Glessner interacts with visitors, a mix of sadness and anger sometimes creeps up on her, she says. "I think, 'Why am I, this little person in this little town, talking about Osama bin Laden and Mohammed Atta? Why did they invade my space?'"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Her children, ages 17 and 20, are proud of her work on the memorial but have little interest in Flight 93 anymore, she says. "They see it as something that has taken me away from the family." Though two-thirds of the ambassadors are senior citizens, there is optimism in Shanksville that the younger generation eventually will step up when called on. Ms. Glessner says: "It's a story that will be told as long as stories are told."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ben Wainio, who lost his daughter on the flight, has visited the crash site on the coldest, windiest days of winter. At times, he has been alone there -- except for the ambassador on duty. Ambassadors have helped him wipe snow off a bench that bears his daughter's name, and they have sat next to him in the cold, saying little. "We just look out at the field together," Mr. Wainio says.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Shanksville's embrace has led him to look at his loss in new ways. There is a thought that never would have occurred to him five years ago, but now he feels comfortable saying it aloud: Americans were murdered on four planes on Sept. 11, and if Elizabeth was fated to be on one of them, he says, "I'm so glad it was Flight 93."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115813654613194356?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115813654613194356/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115813654613194356&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813654613194356'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813654613194356'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/local-ambassadors-tend-to-flight-93.html' title='&quot;Local &apos;ambassadors&apos; tend to Flight 93 site&quot; - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115800893484305358</id><published>2006-09-11T14:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-11T14:08:54.856-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Over half at LCF think Flight 93 photo is fake</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Out of 70 votes at a &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12355"&gt; Loose Change Forum poll&lt;/a&gt;, most think Val McClatchey's "&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html"&gt;End  of Serenity&lt;/a&gt;" photo  is fake:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/lc-poll-091106.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/400/lc-poll-091106.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Note:  You might have to &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?act=idx"&gt; register&lt;/a&gt; at the forum to view poll.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115800893484305358?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115800893484305358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115800893484305358&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115800893484305358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115800893484305358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/over-half-at-lcf-think-flight-93-photo.html' title='Over half at LCF think Flight 93 photo is fake'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115813615080037342</id><published>2006-09-11T01:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T01:29:10.816-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Team 4 Looks At Flight 93 Conspiracy Theories" - WTAE-TV 4 Pittsburgh</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(emphasis mine)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;      &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9822498/detail.html" target="_blank"&gt;Team 4 Looks At Flight 93 Conspiracy Theories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-wtae-tv4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/eos-wtae-tv4.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;POSTED: &lt;st1:date year="2006" day="11" month="9"&gt;September  11, 2006&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Five years after the &lt;st1:date year="2001" day="11" month="9"&gt;Sept.  11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt; attacks, conspiracy theories abound about what caused Flight 93 to crash.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Many people still believe it was shot down. Others say the plane never crashed at all.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Team 4's Paul Van Osdol has been looking into some of these theories.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Do a Google search on Flight 93 conspiracy and you'll get more than 2 million hits.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Some of the theories are wild and easily challenged, but others raise serious questions about shortcomings in the government investigation.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;The movie "United 93" portrayed government officials as frantic, slow to respond, overwhelmed by events, but conspiracy theorists say the movie failed to tell the real story.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Just one day after Flight 93 crashed, rumors about a government conspiracy were already swirling around &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Shanksville&lt;/st1:city&gt;,  &lt;st1:state&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Some of the early conspiracy theories were fueled by witnesses along &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Indian&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Lake&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;. Flight 93 went down on just the other side of the lake, and these witnesses say they saw an unidentified white jet circling the crash site just minutes after Flight 93 went down.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"We all looked at it and said, 'What's he doing?'" said marina owner Jim Brant. "We had no idea what was happening at that time."&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Brant, one of the first people at the scene, told Team 4 the day after the crash his comments were picked up by conspiracy theorists, but today, Brant does not buy into a conspiracy.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"I don't think there was any outside interference to that plane at all," said Brant. "I don't think there is any conspiracy other than what was in the plane."&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;But the Internet continues to buzz with theories about a government shoot-down, and that's not all.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Some have posted articles alleging a famous photo &lt;/b&gt;(pictured, above right)&lt;b style=""&gt; taken at the time of the crash is a fake.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;A retired Army colonel claims there was no plane at all at Shanksville, saying the hole in the ground was far too small for a Boeing 757.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Another theory: Flight 93 never crashed but ended up in &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Cleveland&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, where the "Zionist controlled NASA Space Agency led the cover-up," the same NASA responsible for "dubious Apollo moon landings."&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Theories like this flourish in an information vacuum.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Researcher Bryan Sacks of the group www.911truth.org does not necessarily believe the government shot down Flight 93, but he says the 9/11 Commission failed to do a thorough investigation.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"Most of the commissioners had direct conflicts of interest, ties to the airlines that were involved," said Sacks.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;He and other researchers also point to an Army seismic study that indicates Flight 93 crashed at &lt;st1:time minute="6" hour="10"&gt;10:06 a.m.&lt;/st1:time&gt;, three minutes later than the government's official version.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"So why is there this three-minute gap? We really don't know," said researcher Paul Thompson.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thompson created a timeline of all the &lt;st1:date year="2001" day="11" month="9"&gt;Sept. 11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt;, events. He points out that it took a half-hour after Flight 93's hijacking for air traffic controllers to notify the military.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"They knew the &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;World&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placename&gt;Trade&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Center&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; had been hit," said Thompson. "They knew the Pentagon had been hit and yet they don't bother to tell anyone of importance about it? They don't bother to tell the military that this plane has been hijacked? I mean, if you look at that, it just doesn't make sense."&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;And he wonders why authorities never positively identified the remains of the hijackers.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"We just labeled them terrorist 'A, B, C and D,'" said Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"Why wasn't the step made to go beyond that and try to identify them name by name?" Van Osdol asked.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"We couldn't, because nobody gave us a DNA profile," Miller said.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Miller, one of the lead figures in the Flight 93 investigation, still gets occasional late-night calls from conspiracy theorists. He says the evidence does not support a shoot-down.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"There's nothing that I saw on the ground that would suggest that," said Miller. "It would seem like there would have been debris, upwind around &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Greensburg&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; or somewhere like that, but as far as I know, nothing was found."&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;But critics said there are still too many unanswered questions about one of the most momentous events in recent history.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;"People are interested to know what happened on 9/11 and they do suspect that they're not getting the full story," said Sacks.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Van Osdol talked to several relatives of Flight 93 passengers. Most of them are skeptical of conspiracy theories and they support the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;But some other 9/11 families just put out a DVD called 'Press for Truth,' airing their concerns about the government investigation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Related Links:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;     &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/" target="_blank"&gt;www.cooperativeresearch.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;     &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.911truth.org/" target="_blank"&gt;www.911truth.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;     &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.flight93crash.com/" target="_blank"&gt;www.flight93crash.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;     &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://physics911.net/" target="_blank"&gt;www.physics911.net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9822498/detail.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9822498/detail.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115813615080037342?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115813615080037342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115813615080037342&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813615080037342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813615080037342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/team-4-looks-at-flight-93-conspiracy.html' title='&quot;Team 4 Looks At Flight 93 Conspiracy Theories&quot; - WTAE-TV 4 Pittsburgh'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115813568751968623</id><published>2006-09-11T01:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T14:51:07.550-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ambassadors'/><title type='text'>"Near Shanksville, Pa., Local 'Ambassadors' Tend to Flight 93 Site" - Wall Street Journal</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Snippet. Also printed at &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721163-85.stm" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank"&gt;Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt; and the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/living/15539118.htm?source=rss&amp;amp;channel=journalgazette_living" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank"&gt;Journal Gazette&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;. See archived article &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/local-ambassadors-tend-to-flight-93.html" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;. (emphasis mine)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/google_login.html?url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115794198345659159.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/google_login.html?url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115794198345659159.html" target="_blank"&gt;Near Shanksville, Pa., Local 'Ambassadors' Tend to Flight 93 Site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By Jeffrey Zaslow&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;st1:date day="11" month="9" year="2006"&gt;September 11, 2006&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;SHANKSVILLE, &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt; -- On &lt;st1:date day="11" month="9" year="2001"&gt;Sept. 11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt;, United Airlines Flight 93 fell from the sky and crashed in a field three miles from Chuck Wagner's house.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At the site, ambassadors show visitors a photo taken by local real-estate agent Val McClatchey. She lives just over a mile from where the plane fell. At &lt;st1:time hour="10" minute="3"&gt;10:03 a.m.&lt;/st1:time&gt; on &lt;st1:date day="11" month="9" year="2001"&gt;Sept. 11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt;, she was in her living room, watching TV coverage of the &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;World&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placename&gt;Trade&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Center&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; attacks. A loud boom shook her house. She grabbed a digital camera that was by her front door.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The photo she took shows a mushroom cloud rising into a blue sky, with a neighbor's barn in the foreground. &lt;b&gt;The FBI says it is the only known image taken within seconds of the crash.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;Ms. McClatchey&lt;/b&gt;, 50, &lt;b&gt;says, "If I knew how much chaos it would create in my life, I might have just deleted it."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Accusations about her photo have spread across the Internet. Conspiracy theorists say the photo actually depicts a bomb blast, or that the cloud suggests the plane was shot down by the &lt;/b&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;b&gt;U.S.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;b&gt; government. Others charge the photo is a phony.&lt;/b&gt; It is hard, she says, to see her name on the Internet alongside the words &lt;b&gt;"total fraud."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ambassadors feel for Ms. McClatchey. If bloggers would come to Shanksville, "&lt;b&gt;they could talk to a hundred people who saw that same cloud that day&lt;/b&gt;," Ms. Glessner says.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/google_login.html?url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115794198345659159.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the WSJ mentions this controversy of Val's photo along with Flight 93 being shot down. &lt;i&gt;No where&lt;/i&gt; did I ever say that the anomalies in her photo suggest Flight 93 was shot down. I've been suggesting for a while now that all the "shoot down" rumors of Flight 93 were specifically started by the government on the day of 9/11 to distract people from the realization that &lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html" target="_blank"&gt;Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Also notice Ms. Glessner's quote that "a hundred people" saw the same cloud that's in Val's photo. Do you really believe a &lt;i&gt;hundred&lt;/i&gt; people saw the plume in Val's photo, but &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; Val managed to take a pic of it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115813568751968623?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115813568751968623/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115813568751968623&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813568751968623'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813568751968623'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/near-shanksville-pa-local-ambassadors.html' title='&quot;Near Shanksville, Pa., Local &apos;Ambassadors&apos; Tend to Flight 93 Site&quot; - Wall Street Journal'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115899399919655227</id><published>2006-09-10T23:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-27T12:01:48.216-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Small Town Under Microscope Since 9/11" - KDKA</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Article contains video coverage.&lt;/span&gt; Emphasis mine.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-mcclatchey-kdka.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/val-mcclatchey-kdka.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;Small Town Under Microscope Since 9/11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;st1:date year="2006" day="10" month="9"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sep 10, 2006&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;       &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;    &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(KDKA)&lt;/i&gt; &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;&lt;i&gt;SHANKSVILLE&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/st1:PlaceName&gt;  &lt;st1:placename&gt;Stoney Creek&lt;/st1:PlaceName&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Township&lt;/st1:PlaceType&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; is the kind of place where birds, not cars are the dominant sound in quiet moments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The peaceful nature of the town made the violence of Sept. 11 all the more painful for residents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; “I heard a very loud roar of an engine and I just turned to look out my front window,”&lt;/span&gt; said Val McClatchey, an amateur photographer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I immediately heard the plane you know, heard the engines screaming and just seconds later it hit,” said Rick King, of the Shanksville VFD. “The whole town shook, my porch rumbled - the ground just rumbled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It was so forceful that it almost knocked me off my sofa,” King added. “I jumped and grabbed my camera and on the front deck and saw the smoke rising over the hill.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;King was on the first fire truck to leave Shanksville and the first to arrive at the scene.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt; “I get up there and I look around and it was like - it was like where's the plane,”&lt;/span&gt; King said. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;“I mean there was just like small pieces that you could pick up and put in the palm of your hand just scattered everywhere.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fire fighters were rescuers with no one to rescue&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Four years later, King declines all interviews and has reduced his volunteer fire involvement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Nobody wants to hang around anymore,” said Shanksville VFD Fire Chief Tom Shaffer. “Every time you open the doors anymore, somebody’s pulling in, ‘where’s the crash site? Where were you guys on 9/11 still’.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shaffer who was another first responder and is no less effected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It has never stopped since the plane crashed, there’s always something,” Shaffer said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He feels compelled by his position so he reluctantly accommodates reporters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Sometimes it’s aggravating, when it interferes with your personal life then it’s aggravating,” Shaffer said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shaffer says they’ve experience the best and worst in people since that day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-kdka.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/eos-kdka.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; McClatchey, who titled her picture “End of Serenity”, is getting a taste of the worst.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; “I’d like to see him - &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;the coward that he is&lt;/span&gt; - set foot out here and lay claim to that,” McClatchey said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; Recently a blog website has claimed McClatchey’s photo is a fraud.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-kdka-reporter.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/val-kdka-reporter.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; “It makes me really mad, and that’s putting it politely in a very professional way - it makes my blood curl,” McClatchey said. “The simple fact is that they don’t even have their facts straight.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; McClatchey still gives the proceeds from the picture to a foundation for Flight 93 families.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people of Shanksville, Lambertsville and &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Stoney   Creek&lt;/st1:PlaceName&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Township&lt;/st1:PlaceType&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; have learned that outside aggravations are part of being under a microscope.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;(KDKA-TV is the CBS owned &amp; operated television station for &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pittsburgh&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;     &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://kdka.com/911/local_story_253090222.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Note that the article doesn’t mention me by name, or link to my blogpost to get the whole story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;More of my comments on this article &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/val-on-attack-calls-me-coward-on-tv.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115899399919655227?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115899399919655227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115899399919655227&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115899399919655227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115899399919655227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/small-town-under-microscope-since-911.html' title='&quot;Small Town Under Microscope Since 9/11&quot; - KDKA'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115813505029894922</id><published>2006-09-10T01:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T01:12:29.806-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"A photo of a plane crash or a con?" - Pressefotografforbundet</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="font-style: italic; text-align: justify;"&gt;From a Danish online photo journal site. Thanks to &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=13033&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7185870"&gt; Mew&lt;/a&gt; at Loose Change Forum for translating this article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;      &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/pf.0.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/pf.0.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/3094"&gt;A  photo of a plane crash or a con?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;             &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conspiracy theories are going strong after 9/11. This is what an American amateur photographer has found out. She took a sensational picture of a plane crash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; By Jens Tønnesen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the morning of 9/11 United Airlines Flight 93 crashed on a field near Val McClatchey's farm. She soon grabbed her digital camera and took a picture from her porch of the column of smoke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She printed the out the picture and handed it over to the police and her farm was soon invaded by FBI agents. When the extent of 9/11 became clear, Val McClatchey’s picture became a sought after souvenir.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The picture has been used in national collections to the relatives of the victims, and has toured the country around on exhibitions. By the crash site, volunteers tells about the tragedy and show Val McClatchey’s picture in a laminated plastic version.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it has also become an important evidence for the conspiracy theorists to show that the whole truth about the theorist attack has not come out. They have analyzed the wind direction, the spreading of wreckage and camera angles in an attempt to show that the plane crash was a con.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A group of bloggers, who call themselves “9-11 investigates”, have visited Val McClatchey and accused her of manipulating the picture and to put in fake smoke on the picture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They have moreover picked her story from each other and pointed out discrepancy, all in an attempt to get the 50 year old real estate agent and amateur photographer to appear untrustworthy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you search her name on Google, it appears in the same sentences as “Total fraud”, which is probably not the best name for a real estate agent to have.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Publish&lt;span class="opdateret"&gt;ed:  10-09-2006&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="opdateret"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/3094" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/3094&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="opdateret"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that this article makes it sound like I am accusing Val of faking her photo. That is not accurate. Her being involved in faking her photo is just &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; possible scenario.  The other being her photo is  authentic and it's a photo of an explosion originating from a &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; different location&lt;/a&gt; from the alleged Flight 93 &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=40.050972,-78.904583"&gt; crash site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.pressefotografforbundet.dk/3094"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="opdateret"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115813505029894922?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115813505029894922/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115813505029894922&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813505029894922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813505029894922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/photo-of-plane-crash-or-con.html' title='&quot;A photo of a plane crash or a con?&quot; - Pressefotografforbundet'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115813409916339837</id><published>2006-09-09T00:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T18:00:03.866-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"Photo under fire" - Tribune-Democrat</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Article first came out in the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;CNHI&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; and some of their affiliates on Sept. 8 which is archived &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/cnhi-affiliates-flight-93-crash-photo.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;here&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;. Comments about new photo in Tribune article below. (Snippet, emphasis mine):&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="storyheadline"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="storyheadline"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="storyheadline"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_252234421.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;      &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_252234421.html" target="_blank"&gt;Photo under fire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; Local woman forced to defend shot's integrity&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Published: &lt;st1:date year="2006" day="9" month="9"&gt;&lt;span class="date"&gt;September 09, 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;By KIRK SWAUGER&lt;br /&gt;The Tribune-Democrat&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;SHANKSVILLE — If a picture’s worth a thousand words, Val McClatchey’s is the Da Vinci Code.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her photograph of a mushroom cloud of gray smoke rising above the bucolic countryside – snapped just moments after the crash of Flight 93 – has become a target for 9/11 conspiracy theorists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Five years later, the 50-year-old &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Indian&lt;/st1:placename&gt;  &lt;st1:placetype&gt;Lake&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; woman is frustrated by allegations the photo is a masterful hoax.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;McClatchey said she ran a short distance to the door, saw smoke and instinctively grabbed her &lt;b&gt;month-old digital camera&lt;/b&gt; from nearby.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_252234421.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_252234421.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-tribune-democrat.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/eos-tribune-democrat.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val-mcclatchey-td.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/val-mcclatchey-td.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article contains a &lt;i&gt;revealing&lt;/i&gt; photo. The bottom photo is a current photo of Val McClatchey apparently clutching her then month-old digital camera that she supposedly used to take her infamous plume photo with. It was presumably taken from the Tribune-Democrat reporter doing the story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Just look at and compare the color quality of both photos. Look how &lt;i&gt;dramatically&lt;/i&gt; different the colors are between them!&lt;/b&gt; The reporter's photo, to me, looks like a &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; photo. However, &lt;b&gt;Val's photo looks like it's colors have been manipulated&lt;/b&gt; which then adds evidence that her photo was faked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, notice in the reporter's photo that there is a small white cloud barely over the horizon above the red barn. Notice the horizon is higher than her house and from what I've been told, the crash spot sits lower in elevation than Val's house. If that white cloud is hovering near the crash spot, then just imagine how &lt;i&gt;tall&lt;/i&gt; the plume in Val's photo would be!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One more thing to point out, if you look at the thin column of smoke under the round part of the plume in Val's photo, notice on the lower left side of the smoke column just above the tree line that there looks like there is also a small white cloud and it appears to be behind the plume. If this small white cloud were in fact hovering near the crash spot, this would make the height of the plume practically a &lt;i&gt;mile&lt;/i&gt; high! It also gives more evidence that the plume was &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/phun-with-photoshopping.html"&gt;photoshopped&lt;/a&gt; on there because it seems way too tall and wide to have come from the crash spot and it is starting to look like it is even way too tall and wide to have even come from just beyond the horizon!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115813409916339837?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115813409916339837/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115813409916339837&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813409916339837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115813409916339837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/photo-under-fire-tribune-democrat.html' title='&quot;Photo under fire&quot; - Tribune-Democrat'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115836795637458290</id><published>2006-09-08T17:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T21:19:40.346-07:00</updated><title type='text'>CNHI &amp; affiliates - "Flight 93 crash photo target of conspiracy theorists"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Posted at Community Newspaper Holdings, Inc. (CNHI) and some of its affiliate (see below).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Original story came from their affiliate &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_252234421.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Tribune Democrat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; [&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/photo-under-fire-tribune-democrat.html" target="_blank"&gt;local&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; (Emphasis mine.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;Flight 93 crash photo target of conspiracy theorists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Published &lt;st1:date year="2006" day="8" month="9"&gt;&lt;st1:date year="2006" day="8" month="9"&gt;September 08, 2006&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By KIRK SWAUGER&lt;br /&gt;THE TRIBUNE-DEMOCRAT (&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Johnstown&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;,  &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SHANKSVILLE, &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt; — &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;!-- the next line starts looping through the grafs of the story --&gt;If a picture’s worth a thousand words, Val McClatchey’s is the Da Vinci Code.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Her surreal photograph&lt;/b&gt; of a mushroom cloud of gray smoke rising above the bucolic countryside – snapped just moments after the crash of Flight 93 – &lt;b&gt;has become a target for 9/11 conspiracy theorists&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;Five years later, &lt;b&gt;the 50-year-old &lt;/b&gt;&lt;st1:place style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Indian   Lake&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;b&gt;, woman is frustrated by allegations that the photo is a masterful hoax&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“It’s extremely disturbing,” said McClatchey, owner of Mountain Lakes Realty near &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Indian&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;  &lt;st1:placetype&gt;&lt;st1:placetype&gt;Lake&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“My main focus,” she added, “is to protect the integrity of the photo.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conspiracy theorists, &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;specifically the blog Killtown&lt;/span&gt;, contend the photo is an elaborate fraud that starts with McClatchey and serpentines up to the highest levels of the federal government&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Killtown suggests the photograph is a fake, claiming the gray smoke looks more like a plume from an ordnance blast than the black cloud from a jet crash.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“If it really was an ordnance blast not too far beyond the white barn and white farm house, then this would be a true smoking gun and one of the clearest examples of complicity in the 9/11 attacks by the U.S. government because what else could have caused such a large explosion and who else would have been behind it?” Killtown wrote.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;McClatchey is incensed at the allegation.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“These people are making all these conspiracy theories about the very country that fought to give them the freedom to write the garbage they do,” McClatchey said. “They’re the biggest hypocrites in the world.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey says she will not respond directly on the blogs.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“The more fuel you add to it, the worse it gets,” she said. “Sooner or later, like a fire if you don’t put oxygen in it, it’s going to die.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;Joanne Hanley, Flight 93 superintendent for the National Park Service, agreed.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“I think what Val is going through is shameful,” Hanley said. “Just because something is on a blog doesn’t make it true. People need to realize that.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“It’s also hurtful to the families. They’re discrediting the heroes and what they did. I think it’s unnecessary, and I think people should focus their energies on something positive.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;On &lt;st1:date year="2001" day="11" month="9"&gt;&lt;st1:date year="2001" day="11" month="9"&gt;Sept. 11, 2001&lt;/st1:date&gt;&lt;/st1:date&gt;, McClatchey said she was watching the “Today” show when reports broke of planes hitting into the &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;World&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;  &lt;st1:placename&gt;&lt;st1:placename&gt;Trade&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:placename&gt; &lt;st1:placetype&gt;&lt;st1:placetype&gt;Center&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; and Pentagon.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;As she was trying to call her husband from an area with spotty cellphone coverage, she said she heard the sudden surge of a jet plane and saw a silver flash outside&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“&lt;b&gt;All of a sudden, boom!&lt;/b&gt;” McClatchey said. “&lt;b&gt;The house shook, my electricity went out. I was sitting on the edge of the sofa at the time, and it knocked me off balance&lt;/b&gt;. You could tell something happened outside.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;McClatchey said she ran a short distance to the door, saw smoke and instinctively grabbed her &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;month-old digital camera&lt;/span&gt; from nearby.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;b&gt;She said she managed to snap just one photo&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“&lt;b&gt;I didn’t realize any of the significance&lt;/b&gt;,” she said. &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;Now, her photo has come to symbolize the crash, specifically how the war on terror began in the rolling hills of &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Somerset   County&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;An enlarged version is on display at the Smithsonian Institute in &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Washington&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;, and it has appeared in U.S. News and World Report, Newsweek, Time and newspapers across the country.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;Through all the controversy, McClatchey said she cherishes the bonds she has forged with Flight 93 families.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“They are the most wonderful people I’ve met,” she said. “I admire their strength and courage.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;“It restores your faith.”&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;Kirk Swauger writes for The Tribune-Democrat in &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Johnstown&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;,  &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;Pa.&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;" class="specialstorytext"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-cnhi.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/eos-cnhi.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"  style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Val McClatchey's incredible photograph, taken moments after the crash of United Flight 93 near &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"&gt;Shanksville&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"&gt;Pa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="communityinsidetable"  style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, has become a target for conspiracy theorists who say it is not authentic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The following &lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/newspapers/" target="_blank"&gt;CNHI affiliates&lt;/a&gt; carried this story too:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhi.com/cnhinsstories/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;Community Newspaper Holdings, Inc.&lt;/a&gt; (CNHI)&lt;a href="http://www.cnhins.com/disasters/cnhisnsdisasters_story_251131209.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;Birmingham&lt;/st1:city&gt;, AL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhins.com/homepage/editorspicks_story_251131209.html"&gt;CNHI Editors Picks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cnhins.com/disasters/cnhisnsdisasters_story_251131209.html"&gt;CNHI disasters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;    &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cushingdaily.com/news/cnhisnsdisasters_story_251131209.html?keyword=topstory" target="_blank"&gt;The Cushing Daily Citizen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, Cushing&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;OK&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mankatofreepress.com/disasters/cnhisnsdisasters_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Free Press&lt;/a&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, Mankato&lt;/st1:city&gt;, MN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sharon-herald.com/statenews/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Herald&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, Sharon&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;PA&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.meadvilletribune.com/statenews/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Meadville Tribune&lt;/a&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, Meadville&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;PA&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.mineralwellsindex.com/statenews/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html"&gt; Mineral Wells Index&lt;/a&gt;, Mineral Wells, Texas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;    &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.newcastlenews.net/statenews/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;New Castle News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, New Castle&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;PA&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribune-democrat.com/statenews/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Tribune-Democrat&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;Johnstown&lt;/st1:city&gt;,  PA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;    &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tribstar.com/news_network/cnhinsall_story_251131209.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Tribune Star&lt;/a&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;, Terre Haute&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:state&gt;Indiana&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;     &lt;p&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                &lt;p&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115836795637458290?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115836795637458290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115836795637458290&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115836795637458290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115836795637458290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/09/cnhi-affiliates-flight-93-crash-photo.html' title='CNHI &amp; affiliates - &quot;Flight 93 crash photo target of conspiracy theorists&quot;'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115826516047829098</id><published>2006-08-28T13:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-16T14:52:39.193-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Jones Jones'd Flight 93 photo evidence news</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I was really disappointed that some of the "big boys" in the alternative  press (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;WhatReallyHappened.com, Rense.com, PrisonPlanet.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;)  didn't pick up on the story in the &lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm" target="_blank" title="Conspiracy theorists blog that Flight 93 photo is fake"&gt; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette&lt;/a&gt; on Aug. 6 earlier this month about &lt;a target="_blank" title="Val McClatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; my smoking gun finds&lt;/a&gt; in Val McClatchey's infamous 'Flight 93' photo which shows that plume in her photo is an ordnance blast that had to have originated from a different location, or that the photo is possibly a fake.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I emailed Lisa Guliani and Victor Thorne at WING TV a couple of days after the story broke expressing my disappointment about these three big websites I had admired in the past stiffing this story that had made mainstream news (&lt;em&gt;I  had even emailed all three of them about this story!&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I had mentioned WING TV in my original blogpost because &lt;a href="http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/shanksville.html" target="_blank" title="Shanksville-Flight 93:  Many Unanswered Questions Still Linger"&gt; they had previously interviewed Val&lt;/a&gt; at her work about her photo and the  Post-Gazette article mentioned WING too. Victor then &lt;a href="http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/killtown.html" target="_blank" title="Flight 93 News Blackout"&gt; wrote and article&lt;/a&gt; on the &lt;a href="http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/thorn2006.html" target="_blank" title="Flight 93 News Blackout (August 10, 2006)"&gt; 10th&lt;/a&gt; blasting the "Big 3" for not picking up on the story.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A couple of days after Thorne's story came out, I noticed something peculiar. I had been tracking the Post-Gazette story daily to see who was picking it up on the internet by doing web searches (that's how I noticed that the "Big 3" didn't pick it up on their websites) and all of a sudden I saw links to &lt;em&gt; PrisonPlanet.tv&lt;/em&gt; on my internet &lt;a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22Conspiracy+theorists+blog+that+Flight+93+photo+is+fake%22&amp;btn=Yahoo%21+Search&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;tab=Web&amp;ei=UTF-8&amp;amp;fr=my-vert-web-top" target="_blank"&gt; search results&lt;/a&gt;. This was weird because I had been checking the "Big 3" sites &lt;em&gt;daily&lt;/em&gt; to see if they had picked it up and I &lt;em&gt;swore&lt;/em&gt; I never saw &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet&lt;/em&gt; link it, but then again I never looked on &lt;em&gt; PrisonPlanet.tv&lt;/em&gt; for the article, but only on &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet.com&lt;/em&gt;. I  started to feel bad that I accused &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet&lt;/em&gt; of stiffing the story.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So I checked out &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet.com&lt;/em&gt; to see if they had linked to it,  but I still didn't see it (&lt;em&gt;maybe it was only linked on PrisonPlanet.tv?&lt;/em&gt;).  I then realized they probably only had it up for a day or two, so I started  checking their archives. &lt;strong&gt;This is where is gets interesting.&lt;/strong&gt; I  finally found which day &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet.com&lt;/em&gt; had linked it. They had it  liked on the &lt;a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/headlines/August2006/090806.htm" target="_blank"&gt; Wednesday the 9th&lt;/a&gt; under their "Police State" section. However when I clicked on the link, in which I noticed that they had archived the story, they had the date of the story as &lt;a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806fake.htm" target="_blank"&gt; 10th&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How could they have linked to their archived story on the  9th when they archived it on the 10th???&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (Remember that the  original story came out on the &lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm" target="_blank" title="Conspiracy theorists blog that Flight 93 photo is fake"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sunday the 6th&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and Thorne's article was posted up on the &lt;strong&gt;10th!&lt;/strong&gt;) &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;They obviously tried to sneak it on their site after they felt the pressure from Thorne's article that they had censored it. Also, if you notice on their archived page of the 9th, the link to the article is almost at the top under the "&lt;a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/headlines/August2006/090806.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Police  State&lt;/a&gt;" section which means they had just linked it. On Jones' mirror sites, &lt;em&gt;PrisonPlanet.tv&lt;/em&gt; had it listed first on their "&lt;a href="http://www.prisonplanet.tv/headlines/Aug06/090806.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Breaking  News&lt;/a&gt;" section along with &lt;em&gt;PropagandaMatrix.com&lt;/em&gt; under the "&lt;a href="http://propagandamatrix.com/headlines/Aug06/090806.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Other  News&lt;/a&gt;" section which confirms they had quickly added it before the day was  over. I never saw it linked at &lt;a href="http://www.infowars.com/archives/2006/august/08-09-06.htm" target="_blank"&gt; &lt;em&gt;InfoWars.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, or at &lt;a href="http://www.jonesreport.com/index_110806.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;em&gt; JonesReport.com&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So why did Jones first censor this important smoking gun story that made mainstream news and then try to sneak on his multiple sites? Is it because he hates WING TV that much (or me) that he couldn't put aside his personal feelings and help capitalize on this opportune moment about a 9/11 smoking gun being mentioned in the news and then only snuck it on his sites so as to not appear he was censoring it? &lt;strong&gt;Pathetic&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He also &lt;a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806fake.htm" target="_blank"&gt; didn't even link&lt;/a&gt; to my original blogpost that the Post-Gazette article was written about on his archived page. At the very least, he could have done that in which the Post-Gazette article also failed to do. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well at least I'm somewhat happy that he eventually archived this important smoking gun story (even if he snuck it on there) because this story is important and having it on his sites means more people are exposed to it. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But what's &lt;a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wrhmt/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&amp;search=Conspiracy+theorists+blog+that+Flight+93+photo+is+fake&amp;amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank"&gt; Michael Rivero's&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;WRH&lt;/em&gt;) and &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;q=Conspiracy+theorists+blog+that+Flight+93+photo+is+fake&amp;amp;sa=Search&amp;domains=rense.com&amp;amp;sitesearch=rense.com" target="_blank"&gt; Jeff Rense's&lt;/a&gt; excuse for not linking the story? They couldn't put their personal differences with WING TV aside for the sake of the truth movement either?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" &gt;(Originally posted &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2326"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115826516047829098?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115826516047829098/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115826516047829098&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115826516047829098'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115826516047829098'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/jones-jonesd-flight-93-photo-evidence.html' title='Jones Jones&apos;d Flight 93 photo evidence news'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115784955857730278</id><published>2006-08-27T17:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-01-02T21:36:30.973-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Phun with Photoshopping</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Updated: 01/02/07)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would it be impossible for someone to have photoshopped the plume seen on Val McClatchey's infamous Flight 93 photo? You decide...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Here is the original:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-pitt-post-gazette.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/eos-pitt-post-gazette.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Source:  &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm"&gt; post-gazette.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004"&gt;I asked&lt;/a&gt; for people to photoshop objects on the sky of her photo (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;newest entries first&lt;/span&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/831506/berlinerkindl1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/751981/berlinerkindl1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;- &lt;a href="http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=10828104" target="_blank"&gt;Berliner Kindl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/257638/melle-belle2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/576078/melle-belle2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;- Melle Belle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/638387/melle-belle1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/299051/melle-belle1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;- Melle Belle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/1600/581277/stilldiggin1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7508/1605/320/463668/stilldiggin1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;- &lt;a href="http://911logic.blogspot.com/"&gt;StillDiggin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/brad1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/brad1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;By Brad from &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://911review.org/"&gt;911review.org&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/%7EGmX1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/%7EGmX1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;By &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12355&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7198462"&gt; ~GmX&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/4saken1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/4saken1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"ait, here's my contribution to this. 5min in fusion5" - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7087097"&gt; 4saken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/braheem2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/braheem2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"that's my for real one lol. it took 5 mins" - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7080647"&gt; Braheem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/braheem1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/braheem1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"lol its united 93?  see it was on fire before it hit the ground cuz a  missile hit it" - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7080534"&gt; Braheem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/nevermore1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/nevermore1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"I'm not sure we should discount the Romulans" - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7080360"&gt; Nevermore&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/stroschein1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/stroschein1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"You can add this, I did it 30 minutes, and I'm a noob at Photoshop, so anyone could edit these photos. It's not the best, but what the hell I was bored." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7079608"&gt; Sureshot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/mgldzcrr1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/mgldzcrr1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Ooopss.. I've blown up the crater." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=7078734"&gt; mgldzcrr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/rattler14-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/rattler14-1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"10 minutes..." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6941679"&gt; rattler14&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/barcoded1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/barcoded1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Took me roughly 10-15mins..." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6821911"&gt; Barcoded&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/lee-franklin1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/lee-franklin1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"...here's a link to a whipped up plume behind Val's farm." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6797337"&gt; Lee Franklin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/tony1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/tony1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Here's a quick one." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6797001"&gt; Tony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Following by &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6794461"&gt; Tarya&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/tarya1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/tarya1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/tarya2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/tarya2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/tarya3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/tarya3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/tarya4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/tarya4.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;-------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/2Faced1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/2Faced1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;By &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6791185"&gt; 2Faced&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/kingston1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/kingston1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"This was also made under 20 mins, so a quick job." - &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6791062"&gt; Kingston&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/broodlinger1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/broodlinger1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Here you go. Took me roughly 10-15mins." -  &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11004&amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=6790939"&gt; broodlinger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://911logic.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;And for quick clean-up...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/93-retouching-service.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/93-retouching-service.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;By &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2656"&gt; Rumpl4skn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/flight-93-photo-plume-comparison.html"&gt; Flight 93 photo plume comparison&lt;/a&gt; - killtown.blogspot.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; Val McClatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/a&gt; -  killtown.blogspot.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115784955857730278?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115784955857730278/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115784955857730278&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784955857730278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784955857730278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/phun-with-photoshopping.html' title='Phun with Photoshopping'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115784951116815287</id><published>2006-08-18T17:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-18T19:04:23.947-07:00</updated><title type='text'>McClatchey interview from Windsor Park Stories</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val.mcclatchey.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/val.mcclatchey.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Windsor Park Stories -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is America?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Shanksville Episodes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Val McClatchey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;"The Picture"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Not all of the printed interview below is in the above video. You can see the full streaming video &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.windsorparkstories.com/shank1.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;,  or download it &lt;a href="http://66.49.204.234/shanks1.mp4"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.   Totally running time of video is 29:00. All photos on this blogpost are from the video.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-247029295677494605&amp;amp;hl=en" flashvars=""&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[1:52 - Start of interview.]&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator: Her name is Val McClatchey and although you don’t know the name, you certainly know the picture of the red burn and the mushroom cloud that was ascending toward heaven shortly after Flight 93 crashed on that hill in Shanksville.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;We met Val McClatchey several months &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  that picture was taken&lt;/b&gt;. What a wonderful person and what an inspirational story. It’s a story that will help us to answer the question, “What is America?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[2:32] &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  Tell us a little about life in Shanksville,  Somerset, and western Pennsylvania.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/shanksville.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/shanksville.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[3:18]&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val McClatchey: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;September 11, 2001 started out just like most days&lt;/span&gt;. I got my husband off to work. I was sitting on the sofa watching TV having my 2nd and 3rd cup of coffee as usual and that’s when everything started going wrong in the world it seemed. The first plane had hit and at that time we thought it was an accident and when the second plane hit, it was just an incredible feeling like the whole world was gone crazy. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I was pretty much glued to the TV, like I’m sure most Americans were who had access to the TV at the time, and I had called my husband, who was on his way to a meeting, and while I was talking to him, the Pentagon had just been hit and it was, he was going to try to get back home. He knew they were not going to be able to make their meeting, so he was going to try to fight the traffic to get home. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And it wasn’t long after the Pentagon had gotten hit &lt;b&gt;that I had heard a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;very loud&lt;/span&gt; surge of an engine. I just turned out to look out my front window and I just caught it, just a glimpse of just a flash and then &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt; the explosion had hit&lt;/span&gt;.  It was forceful enough that &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt; it about knocked me off my sofa&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/smoke.plume.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/smoke.plume.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’d had &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;my digital camera&lt;/span&gt; -- &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;was right by the door&lt;/span&gt; -- and I ran out and took a  photo&lt;/b&gt;. The smoke rising over the hillside was just; it was so incredible when you think of the clear blue sky and everything. It was just, I don’t know what possessed me to do it, but I just did &lt;b&gt;and I ran and grabbed my cellphone  and got in my truck and tried to call 9/11 -- couldn’t get through&lt;/b&gt;.  The  cell -- we don’t have cell service very well at Indian Lake.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/jcm.building.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/jcm.building.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This is their saw mill; JCM Industries.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From then on I ran to our saw mill and they still had power and their  phones were still working.&lt;/b&gt;  That’s when we initially heard that it was a  commercial liner that had gone down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/shanks.crater.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/shanks.crater.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[6:03] &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  The story of your photograph is very  important.  Tell us how the photograph came to be and how it changed your life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/end.of.serenity.1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/end.of.serenity.1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Val:  &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;Well the photo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, as I said, it was -- &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;that was just an accidental, it was nothing intended&lt;/span&gt;. It was basically something that I’d just taken just because of the strange and not knowing what had happened, or anything. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;It sat in my camera for a few days&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;  You  know, &lt;b&gt;to me it was just a photograph of something&lt;/b&gt;.  &lt;b&gt;The state police  and the FBI were asking for any photos related to Flight 93&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When I went to download it, I then realized my then seven month old puppy had chewed the end of my chord to download it into my computer, so I had taken the chord and everything, had it replaced, could not get it to recognize my camera into the computer. Ran back and got a memory card reader and as soon as I did &lt;b&gt;I  downloaded, made&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt; a copy of the photo, took it to the state police and &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;within an hour, three FBI agents were in my house&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/fbi.signatures.1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/fbi.signatures.1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(These are the signatures of the 3 FBI agents who went to Val's house and took her memory card. Their names are Special Agents David J Hacker, Todd J. Brown, and Phil Lewzander.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It turns out to be the very first photo taken related. It’s -- &lt;b&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;timed it out&lt;/span&gt; -- it was &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt; approximately 5 seconds&lt;/span&gt; after impact that I snapped the photo&lt;/b&gt;.  It  was the very first one related.  In some of it, I --&lt;b&gt; apparently the FBI  thought it was worthwhile; &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;they took the original memory  card&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. So it turns out that photo was a piece of history that I captured that second in time. I still look at it in kind of disbelief that I’m the one who did that, or had the presence of mind to do it and that’s not something you think about.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/computer.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/computer.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This part in the video is confusing. Val said the FBI agents took her camera's memory card, but this clip shows as if the FBI took her computer's hard drive too.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[8:26] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  Val as I understand it, your photograph has  brought agony and ecstasy.  &lt;b&gt;Tell us about the initial reaction of the FBI  when they discovered that you had this incredible photograph&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val:  &lt;b&gt;Well the FBI, when they came in, they looked at it on my computer  which is a lot clearer.  &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;They could actually see&lt;/span&gt;,  you know, &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;what they appear to be debris flying out from  that cloud of smoke&lt;/span&gt; which I’m sure with modern technology they could do a  little more scientific evidence I believe&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I really don’t know, I mean when I think about it, the agony of it is knowing that just seconds, lot of people died… But since then it’s, that photo’s been everywhere. &lt;b&gt;People, neighbors want a copy, so of course they wanted to pay for the paper and my ink and everything. Taking the money for myself didn’t feel right,&lt;/b&gt; so we decided that the money needed to go to the families of  Flight 93.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/printout.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/printout.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Here is what Val basically gives you for $20, an 8 1/2 x 11 color computer paper printout.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At that time there were no funds set up for it. So I was on my way to the bank -- I had sold a few pictures -- and that’s when Lisa Beamer had taken the same flight that Todd would have taken. &lt;b&gt;She announced at that time the forming of the Todd Beamer Foundation and the checks that come and money that comes in and we’ve been sending out to support the families of Flight 93&lt;/b&gt; and  that’s just -- it felt like the right thing to do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/lisa.beamer.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/lisa.beamer.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The photo has been all over the world; Australia, France, over in Germany, everyone. It’s now hanging in the Smithsonian Institution and that was the most unique experience out of it. I’ve seen the photo thousands of times already, but seeing it hanging there and hearing the other people’s reactions to it, that was probably one of the most memorable times regarding my photo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[14:20] &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  When you look at your picture, what do you  see there? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val: The end of serenity. Things haven’t been the same since obviously; the traffic. For the two weeks afterwards, we had the generators running at night. You could hear them all night long. You could see the glare, the lights against the sky. You couldn’t, you didn’t feel free to drive up and down the road. There was state police and FBI and everything surrounding the area for weeks afterwards. It turned our quiet little town to something out of a movie scene.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/crater.excavation.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/crater.excavation.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[15:02] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  &lt;b&gt;What has it done to you personally?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val:  Well our life has definitely changed.  &lt;b&gt;Right before 9/11, &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;we suffered some severe business loss&lt;/span&gt; to the point  we were &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;forced to file Chapter 11&lt;/span&gt; with our business&lt;/b&gt;. We were in the process of reorganizing and right afterwards the insurance company decided they no longer want to deal with high-risk businesses. I feel that the insurance companies took advantage of the 9/11 situation in general. &lt;b&gt;When we tried to get insurance, we could no longer afford it&lt;/b&gt;.  The rates  have doubled, tripled, quadrupled to the point we couldn’t recoup, so &lt;b&gt;as of  Dec. 31st, we ended up losing our business&lt;/b&gt;, putting 40 some other people out  of work, which is not a great way to start the New Year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/jcm.winter.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/jcm.winter.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(JCM Industries is named after Val's husband; John C. McClatchey, CEO.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I’d had some health problems&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.  &lt;b&gt;Gall  bladder surgery&lt;/b&gt; and during the testing for all the gall bladder problems, &lt;b&gt; they found a tumor on my kidney and lesions on my liver&lt;/b&gt;, so day after Christmas, I had my gall bladder out. Right after there I went right into taking real estate classes to start a new career to help support my family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/red.barn.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/red.barn.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;~&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[17:58] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  And to you, what is important in life?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val:  Wanting to wake up everyday.  Just knowing that people I care about ’s  going to be ok.  Lot to look forward to, &lt;b&gt;a wedding to plan&lt;/b&gt;.  I’ve got a  great husband that -- he’s been through a lot and he has supported me.  &lt;b&gt;We’ve done a complete role-reversal. He’s at home, doing some work at home and I’m the one going out with the briefcase in the morning&lt;/b&gt;, which is quite a unique challenge, facing life’s little twists and turns, but we try to look forward to the fact that as one door closes, who knows what lies on the other side of the other doors? That is what I’m trying to focus on right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;We may have lost our company.  &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;We may lose my house&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, but who knows? We might find a nicer house, we might – you know you just don’t know? Things have changed, but somehow love finds a way to make it all work out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/vals.house.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/vals.house.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This is the front of Val's house where she took her photo at on her porch about were her front window is. This is also the window she looked out of to see the glimpse of the plane she heard fly overhead.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[19:28] &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  So how do you go one?  What motivates you?   What inspires you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val:  Well what inspires me is having to get up everyday and face life.  It  beats the alternative.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I have a young, well &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;my son and his young wife. They just bought a house&lt;/span&gt;,  looking forward to starting their family.  &lt;b&gt;A daughter&lt;/b&gt;, who is getting  married in May, &lt;b&gt;just found out &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;she has cancer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, so now I have to be strong for her and supportive and get her through her crisis and get her happily married and start her family. And I have a great husband and somehow we’re going to make it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[22:11] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator: You have the strength and resilience and good spirit and good will of the most admirable dimensions. Where does that all come from? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val: I would say, just comes from the love I have from my family and friends and just the faith that if you do the right thing and live the right way, it’s gonna come back. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yeah, I have my bad days. Yeah, I feel like going out and punching somebody in the face&lt;/span&gt; and I go home and punch on the pillow, or something, or take my frustrations out on exercise, or some other way, but I’m only human. Like everybody else, I have my faults. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;But as I say if you do the right thing and sooner, or later, it’s going to come back for you; ten-fold&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/val.si.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/val.si.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[23:11] &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;Narrator:  When it’s all said and done, what do you  want people to know about you?  What do you want your legacy to be?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Val: That in no matter what, that somehow, someway, I’ll find a way to smile and keep going and somehow, someway put it behind me and just trust in God that he’ll make things right for us. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[23:37 - End of interview.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/93.memory.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/93.memory.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;See also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; Val McClatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/a&gt; (07/18/06)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.windsorparkstories.com/shank1.html"&gt;The  Shanksville Episodes: Val McClatchey&lt;/a&gt; - Windsor Park Stories  (&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://66.49.204.234/shanks1.mp4"&gt;download&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115784951116815287?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115784951116815287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115784951116815287&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784951116815287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784951116815287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html' title='McClatchey interview from Windsor Park Stories'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115784946872327309</id><published>2006-08-12T17:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-09T17:51:08.730-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Flight 93 photo plume comparison</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(08/22/06)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is Val McClatchey's photo that supposedly shows the smoke plume created  after Flight 93 allegedly crashed about  &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=40.050972,-78.904583"&gt;1.5 miles&lt;/a&gt; away from her house where she  took this photo: &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/plume-comp-val.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/400/plume-comp-val.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Photo source:  &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html"&gt; Shanksville Memorial&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As I've &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://killtown.911review.org/images/flight93/plume/shanks-plume-1000ft.gif"&gt; shown&lt;/a&gt;, the smoke plume in her photo is way to big to have come from the  alleged crash spot. Val says she snapped her photo &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;about 5  seconds&lt;/a&gt; after almost being &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_90823.html"&gt; knocked off her couch&lt;/a&gt; from the explosion. Wind gusts near the crash spot  were only &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010916otherjetnat5p5.asp"&gt; 9 knots&lt;/a&gt; blowing &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=8&amp;c=y"&gt; SE&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is an example of what a smoke plume from a real plane crash would have looked like if it came from the alleged Flight 93 crash site, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;about 1.5 miles away&lt;/span&gt; from where this photo was taken:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/plume-comp-plane-1.5miles.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/plume-comp-plane-1.5miles.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Comparison photo by &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2656"&gt; Rumpl4skn&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/93-plume-comparison.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/320/93-plume-comparison.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4601/plumecomparisonns0.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;" src="http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4601/plumecomparisonns0.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Gif by &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2656"&gt; Rumpl4skn&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here is the video clip of where this dark smoke plume in the comparison photo came from. It is from a B-52 military jet crashing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SB92iQ6yf6c"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SB92iQ6yf6c" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     Here is a video clip of a re-enactment of the Pearl Harbor attack at the &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.usats.org/overview.html"&gt;Dayton Air Show&lt;/a&gt;.   Notice all the "short pulse" explosions that were set off look exactly like the  plume in Val's photo:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/j-bvjpqvtYE"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/j-bvjpqvtYE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here is a video clip of exploding a munitions cache and notice that the color and shape of the plume looks exactly like the grey smoke plume in Val's photo rather than the thick dark smoke plume of the jet crash:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eLM51kNdytA"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eLM51kNdytA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Now that's a friggin' mushroom cloud there!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt; Val McClatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?&lt;/a&gt; -  killtown.blogspot.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html"&gt;Did Flight  93 Crash in Shanksville?&lt;/a&gt; - Killtown&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/34134385-115784946872327309?l=flight93photo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/feeds/115784946872327309/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34134385&amp;postID=115784946872327309&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784946872327309'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/34134385/posts/default/115784946872327309'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/flight-93-photo-plume-comparison.html' title='Flight 93 photo plume comparison'/><author><name>Killtown</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11795608086653664276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/R7N4rfCjZrI/AAAAAAAAAqE/_qErq_mqSyw/S220/quiet.blog.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34134385.post-115784941321476220</id><published>2006-08-10T17:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-10-08T18:03:06.036-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Flight 93 photo mystery deepens</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Updated:  08/22/06)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/eos-ppg.1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/200/eos-ppg.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;With all the chaos I recently created with   &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-guns.html"&gt;   my analysis&lt;/a&gt; (just updated) of Val McClatchey's infamous Flight 93 photo    that just   &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm"&gt;   made headlines&lt;/a&gt; in the mainstream media, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;   new details have emerged&lt;/span&gt; in this new Pittsburg Post-Gazette article   &lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; from a   &lt;a href="http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/08/mcclatchey-interview-from-windsor-park.html"&gt;   video interview of Val&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.windsorparkstories.com/shank1.html"&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;]    that I was just made aware* of &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;   deepens the mystery of Val's photo&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Post-Gazette article mentioned that the reason Val took &lt;b&gt;only one photo&lt;/b&gt;  of this historic eve
